Most people who rubbish Michael Moore do so because they have already decided that they are going to believe the official government line, and any other version of events cannot therefore be true. And as Moore himself has said, there are much easier ways to make money than what he does.ush flynn said:Because Moore isnt just in it for the money is he? His films are based on pratically nothing, just the way he pieces together unlrelated crap makes people think he really knows the truth about everything. If you can believe what moore says then you are having the wool pulled over your eyes more than the rest of us.
.... and guess who hacks his films and works to pieces and publishes the info online....ush flynn said:' The fact his nearly every single scene in any of his films has been proven to have been used in the wrong context or with little to no backup. People have literally hacked his work to pieces and showed how much crap has been put into it. I cannot believe that people take this mans word for gospel when his films contradict each other! '
It would help if you provided a couple of examples to illustrate what you are saying. Without that your claims are inevitably rather hollow.ush flynn said:The fact his nearly every single scene in any of his films has been proven to have been used in the wrong context or with little to no backup.
a lot of this so called proof is from neocon authors and filmakers and of course Fox; and then its about the less disturbing revelations.....ush flynn said:The fact his nearly every single scene in any of his films has been proven to have been used in the wrong context or with little to no backup.
Why is it i get asked to back up things i say when people can say things like this without knowing who or what source i was talking about initially?Ethics Gradient said:.... and guess who hacks his films and works to pieces and publishes the info online....
The very people who he has been having a pop at.
... just how guilible are you ?
I asked you to illustrate your claims with examples so I can understand what you are talking about. If you claim that almost everything Michael Moore has said in his films has been proven to be incorrect or misleading, then it isn't unreasonable to be asked why you make that claim.ush flynn said:Why is it i get asked to back up things i say when people can say things like this without knowing who or what source i was talking about initially?
(Source)Since its commercial release last fall, it has become the best-selling non-concert documentary in history, with a global box office of more than $30-million (U.S.). In France, it has won the French Oscar, the César. It finished among the top 10 films of the year in such mainstream publications as Time magazine, USA Today and Entertainment Weekly and, in an arguable case of overkill, was picked as the greatest documentary of all time by the International Documentary Association in a poll of 2,000 documentary filmmakers around the world.
In the closely watched trade awards that lead up to the Oscars, the film has even won an award from the Writers' Guild for best original screenplay, unprecedented for a documentary.
I like to think that it has done, but it will never change anything. The level of US gun ownership is pretty much irreversible now from a social perspective - even if the (misinterpreted) right to bear arms in the constitution could be changed. When you combine that with the very powerful NRA lobby and a president from Texas, there is even less chance of moving away from the wild west mentality that inflicts the US.mrtbag said:However, Bowlin for Columbine is a masterpiece. It has a purpose, and it may just prove to a lot of people how stupid the US gun laws are.
So you are unable or unwilling to provide any evidence to support your claims, yet you expect others to do just that?ush flynn said:ok consider this, to the people who support Moores books and films and his opinions. Have you read any of the arguments on the points hes made? Have you read any reports of incorrect facts or the altered ad campaign in bowling for columbine? If so? what proof do YOU have that they are untrue, or written by the people who Moore is opposing in the first place?