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The Best Projector?

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by abhi, Apr 8, 2005.

  1. abhi

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    I was looking for the best projector at around/under £10,000.

    Will any projector be capable of projecting well in bright light conditions? At around 100", will any be VERY GOOD condition, ie. nearly as good as a plasma?
     
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    Your looking at at least £11.000 for that m8 :p
     
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    Lol, Which projector would you recommend? I want it to be widescreen (16:9), and to support High Definition TV!
     
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    Well i carnt decide what to spend my £1500 on so i doubt i can help you spend £10,000 :)
     
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    If you are going to spend 10 grand on a new projector and have not researched this enough to give us even a few of the models on your shortlist then you have far more money than sense.

    You can get a HiDef ready projector that you can use on 100" screen in a reasonably bright room for about a fifth of that budget....
     
  6. Mr.D

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    No projector looks ideal in bright light ...neither do plasmas or any other type of display device ..maybe billboards.

    Plasmas are not exactly a high watermark for picture quality.
     
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    If projecting in bright ambient light, you may want to investigate Sony's new black screen technology, apparently to be named ChromaVue!

    It's not been launched yet, but has been demoed at various shows - if they deem it a viable commercial product, then it's launch can be far away!
    Whether they'll go it alone or license the technology to others remains to be seen, as does pricing (though guesstimates suggest a price of around $2000 for an 80in screen)

    I haven't actually seen one in real life, but from the screenshots I've seen, it does look to be a promising development for projecting in brighter conditions (though I suspect a sunlight filled room will still be beyond it, as it is with nearly every display technology usable for quality video display)

    Here's some info (with a few screenshots)

    http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/5516
    http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/images/sony_blackscreen.jpg
    http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/better-picture-of-sonys-black-backed-projection-screen-016964.php
     
  8. Joe Fernand

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    abhi

    Better to consider a dual technology set-up -

    01. Plasma (High Ambient Lighting) + Projector (Dark or Low Ambient lighting)

    or

    02. A twin projector rig: One low cost 'screamer' with 2500+ ANSI (High Ambient lighting) + decent Home Theatre projector (Dark or low ambient lighting).

    There's no one projector that works well in both lighting conditions and nothing you'd classify as 'Optimised' for movies that produces a very bright image for use in daylight conditions.

    Best regards

    Joe
     
  9. Gordon @ Convergent AV

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    Hey Joe: How about a dual screen scenario with a Silverstar fixed rig that a High Contrast grey screen could come down in front of for low light level viewing....


    Really to give sensible advice more info is needed. What location is this going in, commerical or domestic? What programme material is going to be watched and when? How well ventilated is the room? Where will folk be seated in relation to the screen? Where are the windows in relation to the screen? Is the projector to be ceiling or floor/desk mounted?

    Gordon
     
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    Hi Gordon

    As you say many ways to 'skin the cat' - and many questions to be resolved.

    I'd probably go for the 'screamer' projector and trash its bulb rather than have the 'main' projector on 24/7 - again assumptions about usage levels.

    Over to abhi for answers!

    Joe
     
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    Yeh I was thinking of a 60" Plasma, but it will be right next to a swimming pool, and so could get damaged. The projector could be far away from the pool, with an image on the pool wall which dre me to it. I still might consider puting a 60" plasma on one wall, and a 50" on the other where they will be both far away from teh pool, but I would prefer one large one.

    Thanks for the info on the new Sony projection screen, as it looks like just what i'll need. In Harrods, they wer recommending painting the wall in a "holographic paint" anyone know how good this will be in high light conditions?
     
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    Panasonic PT-7000 3-chip DLP.

    16:9, can pretty much go as bright as you want it.

    It'll probably take a fair bit of shopping around to find it for <10k, but you should at least be able to get close to that.
     
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    Still need more answers.....the black screen technology has significant drop off when not on-axis....so if you're in the pool and want to watch you've got a problem........if you're at the side of the pool and the screens in the middle of a wall you've got a problem........

    Is there any chance for rear projection? DNP rear pro rig and a nice bright DLP/DILA could be a go-er....if you've got space for the projection room. If you're only wanting 60" diagonal then a plasma housed safely is probably the best option......

    Decent CI company should be able to come up with some good ideas that they've had working in similar situations in the past.

    Gordon
     
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    Any links to this projector please.

    Do you know of any CI company's?

    Thanks for all the help!
     
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    Hello all

    Carl Ed - the Panasonic PT-DW7000EK is going to be over budget. Keep in mind its usually priced ex a lens - the price with a lens is nearer £16K.

    The Panasonic PT-D5500E is more of a contender at around £5.5K inc a lens with optional long throw lens at around £2K.

    abhi - no 'standard' electronics are going to last very long in the atmosphere in a pool area; the type of water treatment plant you use will affect what you choose and how you install.

    You either need to enclose and force fresh air or project from an adjacent room if you want the kit to last any length of time; your likely to have high humidity and air borne chemicals in the pool area.

    One positive with a dark screen/wall surface will be minimising the amount of 'reflections' you get back off the water.

    Lots to consider and you need to decide what your 'budget' covers - just the projector or the projector + everything required to get it working; inc the right people for the design/install/calibration job.

    Best regards

    Joe

    PS You can PM me if you want PDF's on the Panasonic Install DLP range.
     
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    I am getting air conditioning and dehumidification for the pool. Bromine (not chlorine) will be used the chemical used in the pool. I am getting an electric cover for the pool, so it will be covered at most times. However, whe4n the cover switch is flicked to be taken off, the room will automatically heat up to around 30 degrees celcius.

    I wouldnt really mind the cost, but I dont want to be spending more than £15k including installation etc.
     
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    I've heard of the 7000 going for around US$10k w/ lens new (it seems to have quite a sizable retailer markup), so I don't see why you couldn't get it for at least in the ballpark of 10,000 quid.

    Of course failing that the 5500 is a good option.
     
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    Hello all

    Carl Ed - possibly the US version at that price; here in the UK that's way below Trade and the 'achievable' mark up on all of these items is about 10%.

    abhi - your budget is realistic and once your plans are looked at there are as pointed out previously a fair few 'options' for consideration as far as the type of technology employed and the installation route taken.

    Best regards

    Joe
     
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    Have you visited the Pool Forum yet to ask which shape swimming pool you should get...?
     
  20. Spooksta

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    lol at this thread.......
     
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    I suppose it's very unusual for someone with apparently so much money available to come here and ask questions, they usually ask someone else to "sort it" and/or don't have enough time to bother coming on any forums - too busy waxing the yacht or something like that. ;)

    Either way, if this is legit good luck to you. The electric pool cover sounds the business, my kids would love to use that as a trampoline!

    :thumbsup: ...PJ
     
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    The pool was already built, ever since I got the house. It was outdoors though, and so with British weather wee couldnt use it much. we're just enclosing it, and getting a pool table, bar, etc. around the edge!

    It couldnt be used as a trampoline! Its a hard cover similar to the one found at the top here: http://www.starline.nl/zwembaden/afdekkingen.html !
     
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    Money can't buy you everything eh! Jealous? Yeah probably....
     
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    Oh dear, so much for a home cinema! Did Harrods recommend you float rather than sit?

    :rolleyes:
     
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    For our area, itl have to be on a flat wall. Harrids agve an estimate of £10-£15k for installation of a "top" projector, including installation, and "holographic painted wall". They're specialist was going to contact me, but he hasnt done so yet.

    I dont have a clue which projector their price included, as they have a special company they deal with, which wil contact me.
     
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    Yorkshire.
     
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    Abhi - would recommend you see a specialist with this budget, they'll be far better priced and better "knowledged" than the lovely guys at Harrods. See here for more details.

    Good luck!
     
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    Without plugging a product for a decent 10k projector i suggest you look at our Barco RLM G5 - 3 chip DLP Projector
     
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    The Barco would be a poor choice for Home Cinema.

    It's 4:3 XGA. CR 900:1. Lamp Life 1000Hrs (uses 2 lamps :eek: )

    Lens not included in price.

    50 dB noise level :eek: :eek:

    No Longer in production :thumbsdow

    Jeff :rtfm:
     

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