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The best 37inch lcd irrespective of cost??

Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs' started by Nabs, Oct 26, 2005.

  1. Nabs

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    Ok guys this is going to be a regular question so why not start a thread rating the top lcds for picture quality, and reasons why:

    My view:

    Best seen to date (irrespective of price)
    1. Loewe Spheros (with media box)
    2. Philips 37PF9830
    3. Loewe Xelos 37

    I have not seen the toshiba but would love to know how it compares. This is based on browsing shops but of course one has to bear in mind the setup may not be optimum.

    I was thinking of a poll but not sure how to add one
     
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    The Tosh won't compare to the ones you mention. Pretty sure about that one.
    I agree on your list, order too.
     
  3. Nabs

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    Glad to hear your I am not off base. One does get distracted with all the ever increasing threads on the toshiba. It is good sometimes to know 'best' as well as 'best value'
     
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    What version Spheros and Xelos? The original Spheros/Xelos SL with external media box or new Spheros R/Xelos A series with integrated electronics?
     
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    Ian personally I prefer the older spheros as I like keeping wires up the wall to the spheros to a min. But that is a personal preference. The masterpiece probably is the best spheros to date but I personally have not seen the spheros R yet - waiting to hear what it is like in action
     
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    I've seen the Spheros R26 at Stratford Hi-Fi (in Stratford-On-Avon) and the PQ is both superb and faultless with regular television broadcasts. Why look at anything else?

    Now that the prices have been substantially reduced (by almost 50%), the Spheros R series offer the best quality for not that much more than Panasonic or Sony products in my opinion.

    Although I'd buy the R37 today, and I appreciate that you'll wait forever for 'the next best thing', I'm content to see the fruits of Loewe's integrated high-definition tuner offerings in the New Year (see their website for further details).
     
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    I too am interested to see their high def tuner too, but I thought it was not due out to next summer. Spinal how does the picture of the spheros R compare to that of the old spheros? and how much are stratford Hifi selling the R37 for currently
     
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    Depends on your budget and at it's price the Tosh is hard to beat IMO.

    TJ
     
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    but the question was "regardless of price"...

    A boss of mine (of my weekend job) owns the R37 Masterpiece since a few weeks... And the guy doesn't even have a dvd player!!!! He has no time to watch a dvd, only some regular tv once in a while (regular= analog RF!), and still buys a 6000€ screen, because he liked the design.

    Sometimes the world is so unfair.
     
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    exactly, because of the design. I have a colleague at work that swears by Loweve. I'm sure they are a good company, but IMO their design is as important as performance. Just because they are the most expensive doesn't automatically make them the best performing.

    Although the magazines seem to enjoy drooling over them, with no qualms about price.
     
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    Yeah but have you seen them perform - they are good, even going back to CRT days. I bought a panni crt, thought the aconda was out of budget at the time and always regretted it, there was no comparison for picture for a few hundred £ more. I confess though their plasma did not really live up to their usual mark. For expense and performance gap I think B&O are probably more out.
     
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    The simple fact is that if you audition either a Panasonic or Sony LCD (with conventional television broadcasts) it won't be long before you find even the slightest thing wrong with the picture - whether it be grain, smearing, colour bleeding or blocking, for example.

    The Loewe Spheros is pristine perfect by comparison, with none of the negative characteristics associated with these other brands. You'll spend the extra just to get the perfect picture. Why spend just under £2,000 for a 32" Panasonic or Sony, get it home, and constantly justify the imperfect picture vs the price paid (and repent at your leisure for many years), when you can spend just over £2,000 for a 32" Loewe Spheros R and pat yourself on the back for having made a wise and prudent purchase.

    BTW, I've seen the previous Spheros 37 fed by DVD and the PQ was unbelieveably crystal clear - more life-like than real life, if you see what I mean.
     
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    I agree - spinal how much was the spheros R you saw and where?
     
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    I just saw the KDL-V32A12U set up well in the home-entertainment show in manchester. Have to say it looked good - ok it was fed from an hdmi source but the colours were bright and extremely vivid. Pity the new spheros R was not set up next to it to compare.
     
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    Can anyone tell me where I could have a look at one of the Spheros R's and how much they are ?
     
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    prices of loewe from peter martin in cheshire are:

    LOEWE
    Price list updated 09/09/05
    Our Price
    REFERENCE The Loewe model for the perfectionist, pioneering technology,
    brilliant pictures
    Spheros Plasma Display and Signal Box
    Spheros 42 HD SPHEROS 42 HD Platinum - stands not included, see next
    section £ 5,995.00
    SPHEROS 42 HD DR+ Platinum - stands not included, see next section £
    6,100.00
    Spheros Plasma Mounting Options
    Spheros mounts Wall Bracket - Platinum or Graphite £ 295.00
    Floor Stand - Platinum £ 1,395.00
    Floor Stand - High Gloss Basalt £ 1,395.00
    Retro fit motor unit - Platinum £ 395.00
    Retro fit motor unit - High Gloss Basalt £ 450.00
    Cube Adaptor Platinum £ 295.00
    Cube Adaptor High Gloss Basalt £ 295.00
    Spheros R37 Masterpiece
    Spheros 37 Masterpiece DR+DVB T/S £ 5,995.00
    Spheros 37 & 32 Display
    Spheros 37 Spheros 37 HD Display - Platinum - Signal box not included see
    next section £ 2,600.00
    Spheros 37 HD Display - Basalt - Signal box not included see next section
    £ 2,995.00
    Spheros 32 Spheros 32 HD Display - Platinum - Signal box not included see
    next section £ 1,995.00
    Spheros 32 HD Display - Basalt - Signal box not included see next section
    £ 2,200.00
    Spheros 32 & 37 Signal Box Options
    Spheros Signal Box Signal box - Platinum £ 750.00
    Signal Box - DVB - Platinum £ 950.00
    Signal Box - DR+ - Platinum £ 1,150.00
    Signal Box - DR+ - Basalt £ 1,300.00
    Signal Box - DR+ - DVB - Platinum £ 1,350.00
    Signal Box - DR+ - DVB - Basalt £ 1,500.00
    Spheros R (LCD electronics on board)
    Spheros R37 Spheros R37 LCD DVB DR+ twin DVB-t Platinum - £ 3,299.00
    Spheros R37 LCD DVB DR+ twin DVB-t High gloss basalt £ 3,499.00
    Spheros R37 Spheros R37 LCD DVB Freeview Platinum - £ 2,999.00
    Spheros R37 LCD DVB Freeview High gloss basalt £ 3,199.00
    Spheros R32 Spheros R32 LCD DVB-T DR+ twin DVB-t Platinum £ 2,795.00
    Spheros R32 LCD DVB-T DR+ twin DVB-t High Gloss Basalt £ 2,999.00
    Spheros R32 Spheros R32 LCD DVB Freeview Platinum - £ 2,499.00
    Spheros R32 LCD DVB Freeview High gloss basalt £ 2,699.00
    Spheros 26 LCD Spheros R26 LCD DVB Freeview Platinum - £ 1,899.00
    Spheros 20 (LCD electronics on board)
    Spheros 20 SPHEROS 20 L3010 S PLATINUM £ 1,350.00
    Spheros Accessories
    SPHEROS 42 HD 7m EXTENSION CABLE £ 325.00
    SPHEROS 42 HD 10m EXTENSION CABLE £ 350.00
    Xelos / Spheros 32/37 ext cables 10meter £ 295.00
    Spheros Master unit Rack 1 Platinum £ 495.00
    Spheros Master unit Rack 1 Basalt £ 650.00
    CD/DVD HOLDER FOR CUBE 1 & 2 £ 110.00
    SYSTEM-CUBE 2 PLATINUM £ 1,250.00
    SYSTEM-CUBE 2 HIGH GLOSS BASALT £ 1,495.00
    SYSTEM CUBE 1 AUDIO PLATINUM £ 750.00
    SYSTEM CUBE 1 AUDIO BASALT £ 895.00
    SYSTEM CUBE 1 TV PLATINUM £ 950.00
    SYSTEM CUBE 1 TV BASALT £ 1,095.00
    SPHEROS 37/32 CUBE ADAPTER £ 35.00
    Dolby Digital AC3 kit Q25 S2550 R2550 £ 175.00
    WALL MOUNT SPHEROS & XELOS SL 32/37 £ 95.00
    ARTICOS 32 / SPHEROS 37 & 32 MOTOR UNIT £ 350.00
    SPHEROS & XELOS 32/37 PEDESTAL RACK £ 195.00
    ART The Loewe model for the individualist, superior solutions, pure design
    Xelos
    Xelos A42 PLASMA Xelos A42 Freeview Platinum £ 2,695.00
    Xelos A42 Freeview Anthracite £ 2,695.00
    Xelos A42 Twin DVB-t Platinum DR+ £ 2,999.00
    Xelos A42 Twin DVB-t Anthracite DR+ £ 2,999.00
    Xelos A37 LCD Xelos A37 LCD with integrated electronics Freeview -
    Platinum or Anthracite £ 2,299.00
    Xelos A37 LCD with integrated electronics DR+ Twin DVB - Platinum or
    Anthracite £ 2,599.00
    Xelos A32 LCD Xelos A32 LCD with integrated electronics Freeview -
    Platinum or Anthracite £ 1,899.00
    Xelos A32 LCD with integrated electronics DR+ Twin DVB - Platinum or
    Anthracite £ 2,199.00
    Xelos A26 LCD Xelos A26 Freeview Platinum or Anthracite £ 1,299.00
    Xelos A DVB-T
    Xelos A22 LCD Xelos A22 - Platinum £ 849.00
    Xelos A20 LCD Xelos A20 - Platinum £ 799.00
    Xelos Accessories
    Xelos Accessories WALL MOUNT WM53 SPHEROS & XELOS SL 32/37 £
    95.00
    WALL MOUNT WM52 Xelos A26 £ 95.00
    Xelos A42 Wall mount WM61 £ 99.00
    XELOS SL 32/37 RACK £ 495.00
    XELOS A42 Rack £ 495.00
    Flat tv stand 3, Pedestal rack - Spheros 32/37 Xelos 26/32/37 £
    199.00
    WALL MOUNT WM35 Xelos A20/22 MIMO L20 £ 95.00
    ONLINE plus for Xelos SL Spheros32/37 £ 950.00
    LIFE The Loewe model for the fashion conscious, young design, intelligent
    technology
    Modus DVB-T
    Modus 42 Modus 42 Plasma DVB-T, built in tuner and speakers - Platinum £
    2,295.00
    Modus 42 Plasma DVB-T, built in tuner and speakers - Anthracite £
    2,295.00
    Concept DVB-T
    Concept LCD Concept L32 DVB Platinum £ 1,495.00
    Concept LCD Concept L26 DVB Platinum £ 1,095.00
    Concept Freeview
    Concept LCD Concept L32 Freeview Platinum monochrome September £
    1,495.00
    Concept LCD Concept L32 Freeview Chromesilver November £ -
    Concept LCD Concept L26 Freeview Platinum September £ 1,095.00
    Concept LCD Concept L26 Freeview Chromesilver November £ -
    Concept Accessories
    Concept L32 Wall mount WM54 £ 50.00
    Concept L26 Wall mount WM55 £ 50.00
    Mimo LCD
    Mimo LCD Mimo 20 LCD Platinum £ 599.00
    Mimo 20 LCD Cream £ 599.00
    Mimo LCD Accessories MIMO 15/20 & XELOS SL 20 WALL BRACKET WM34 £
    99.00
    Flat TV Fstand 2 - Mimo 15/20 Xelos SL20 A22 £ 199.00
    INDIVIDUAL Individually uniquely allows you to configure the television to
    suit
    INDIVIDUAL DR+ DVB-T LCD
    Individual Individual 32 Selection DR+ twin DVB Alu Silver £
    2,595.00
    Individual 32 Selection DR+ twin DVB Alu Black £ 2,595.00
    Individual 32 Selection DR+ twin DVB Alu Titan £ 2,595.00
    Individual 32 Selection DR+ twin DVB Alu Bronze £ 2,595.00
    Individual 32 Selection DR+ twin DVB High Gloss Cream £ 2,795.00
    INDIVIDUAL FREEVIEW LCD
    Individual Individual 32 Selection Freeview Alu Silver £ 2,295.00
    Individual 32 Selection Freeview Alu Black £ 2,295.00
    Individual 32 Selection Freeview Alu Bronze £ 2,295.00
    Individual 32 Selection Freeview Alu Titan £ 2,295.00
    Individual 32 Selection Freeview High Gloss Cream £ 2,495.00
    Individual 32 Freeview Chrome Silver NA
    Individual 32 Freeview Anthracite NA
    INDIVIDUAL FREEVIEW LCD
    Individual Individual 26 Selection Freeview Alu Silver £ 1,699.00
    Individual 26 Selection Freeview Alu Black £ 1,699.00
    Individual 26 Selection Freeview Alu Bronze £ 1,699.00
    Individual 26 Selection Freeview Alu Titan £ 1,699.00
    Individual 26 Selection Freeview High Gloss Cream £ 1,799.00
    INDIVIDUAL ACCESSORIES
    Individual Screen floor stand - Alu Silver IND32/26 £ 129.00
    Individual wall mount 32/26 £ 129.00
    Individual Paravent stand - 32 £ 399.00
    Individual Lift 32/26 £ 499.00
    Inlay 32 Acrylic Individual Inlay Acrylic HG Black £ 65.00
    Individual Inlay Acrylic HG Ruby £ 65.00
    Individual Inlay Acrylic Applegreen £ 65.00
    Individual Inlay Acrylic Orange £ 65.00
    Individual Inlay Acrylic Colourless £ 65.00
    Individual Inlay Acrylic Colourless £ 65.00
    Inlay 32 Alu Individual Inlay Alu Silver £ 85.00
    Individual Inlay Alu Chrome £ 85.00
    Inlay 32 Wood Individual Inlay Wood Pale Oak £ 65.00
    Individual Inlay Wood Rosewood £ 65.00
    Individual Inlay Wood Ebony £ 65.00
    Inlay 26 Acrylic Individual Inlay Acrylic HG Black £ 65.00
    Individual Inlay Acrylic HG Ruby £ 65.00
    Individual Inlay Acrylic Applegreen £ 65.00
    Individual Inlay Acrylic Orange £ 65.00
    Individual Inlay Acrylic Colourless £ 65.00
    Individual Inlay Acrylic Colourless £ 65.00
    Inlay 26 Alu Individual Inlay Alu Silver £ 85.00
    Individual Inlay Alu Chrome £ 85.00
    Inlay 26 Wood Individual Inlay Wood Pale Oak £ 65.00
    Individual Inlay Wood Rosewood £ 65.00
    Individual Inlay Wood Ebony £ 65.00
    CLASSIC The model for the connoisseur, timeless design with tried and tested
    technology
    Top-Line CRT's
    Aconda ACONDA C32 DR+ LIGHTSILVER Q2550M £ 1,299.00
    ACONDA C32 DR+ STRATOS METALIC Q2550M £ 1,399.00
    Nemos NEMOS 32" DR+ PLATINUM Q2500M £ 1,199.00
    NEMOS 32" DR+ ANTHRACITE Q2550B £ 1,199.00
    Aventos AVENTOS 3981ZW PLATIN MONOCHROME with DR+ Q2500B £ 999.00
    Basic Line CRT's
    Aconda ACONDA C32 LIGHTSILVER Q2550M £ 999.00
    ACONDA C32 STRATOS METALIC Q2550M £ 1,099.00
    Mimo 32 Anthracite £ 1,299.00
    Nemos NEMOS 32 PLATINUM Q2500B £ 899.00
    NEMOS 32 ANTHRACITE Q2500B £ 899.00
    NEMOS 28 PLATINUM Q2500B £ 750.00
    NEMOS 28" ANTHRACITE Q2500B £ 750.00
    Aventos AVENTOS 32 3981ZW PLATIN MONOCHROME Q2500B £ 799.00
    AVENTOS 32 3981ZW ANTHRACITE Q2500B £ 799.00
    AVENTOS 28 3970ZW ANTHRACITE Q2500B £ 650.00
    AVENTOS 28 3970ZW PLATINUM MONOCHROME Q2500B £ 650.00
    Aventos 28 3770ZW Living Light Silver Q2500B £ 550.00
    Aventos 28 3770ZW Living Anthracite Q2500B £ 550.00
    CRT Accessories
    Aconda Accessories T1 PASSIVE ACONDA STAND LIGHT SILVER £ 595.00
    T1 PASSIVE ACONDA STAND GRAPHITE £ 595.00
    C30 RACK PLATINUM £ 350.00
    C30 RACK IN GRAPHITE £ 350.00
    Nemos Accessories NEMOS RACK PLATINUM £ 295.00
    NEMOS RACK ANTHRACITE £ 295.00
    M13 RACK ANTHRACITE £ 195.00
    M13 RACK PLATINUM £ 195.00
    Aventos Accessories M12 RACK PLATINUM £ 150.00
    M12 RACK GRAPHITE £ 150.00
    2ND SHELF RACK M11/M12 GRAPHITE £ 75.00
    2ND SHELF RACK M 11/M12/M13 PLATINUM £ 75.00
    2ND SHELF RACK M11/M12/M13 ANTHRACITE £ 75.00
    28 AVENTOS STAND PLATINUM £ 70.00
    Mimo Accessories Mimo rack1 Anthracite £ 399.00
    Mimo rack2 steel £ 175.00
    Loewe Audio / DVD / VCR
    Certos DVD
    Certos DVD CERTOS 1 PLATINUM HD SOFTWARE SOLD OUT
    CERTOS 1 HIGH GLOSS BASALT HD SOFTWARE SOLD OUT
    Concertos Audio System
    Concertos Audio System CONCERTOS BASSMODULE PLATINUM SOLD OUT
    CONCERTOS BASSMODULE HIGH GLOSS BASALT SOLD OUT
    CONCERTOS PASSIVE SATELITES (4 x Spkr Aluminium) SOLD OUT
    CONCERTOS CABLEBOX SOLD OUT
    Concertos System - Platinum SOLD OUT
    Concertos System - High Gloss Basalt SOLD OUT
    Certos / Concertos Accessories
    Certos/Concertos Accessories CONCERTOS S-STAND ALUMINIUM (pair) £
    195.00
    CERTOS T STAND [ACC] £ 175.00
    CERTOS F STAND [ACC] £ 195.00
    CERTOS MASTER UNIT 6m CABLE £ 120.00
    CERTOS/CONCERTOS CABLE 6m BLACK £ 70.00
    CONCERTOS WALL MOUNT BRACKETS £ 75.00
    Auro DVD Preceiver
    Auro AURO 2216 DT - PLATINUM £ 649.00
    AURO 2216 DT - ANTHRACITE £ 649.00
    Tremo Sub/Sat System
    Tremo Sub/Sat System TREMO / SUB WITH 5 SAT SPEAKERS PLATINUM £
    650.00
    TREMO / SUB WITH 5 SAT SPEAKERS ANTHRACITE £ 650.00
    TREMO / SUB WITH 5 SAT SPEAKERS CREAM £ 650.00

    Tremo Accessories TREMO WALLMOUNT - PLATINUM £ 50.00
    TREMO WALLMOUNT - CREAM £ 50.00
    TREMO SPEAKER STANDS (pair) £ 279.00
    CONCERTOS S-STAND ALUMINIUM (pair) £ 195.00
    Centros DVD Recorder
    Centros DVD Recorder CENTROS 1102 DVD RECORDER - PLATINUM £ 349.00
    CENTROS 1102 DVD RECORDER - ANTHRACITE £ 349.00
    Centros DVD Recorder CENTROS 2102 DVD RECORDER - PLATINUM £ 395.00
    CENTROS 2102 DVD RECORDER - ANTHRACITE £ 395.00
    Xemix DVD Player
    Xemix DVD Xemix 6222 PS DVD player - Platinum £ 150.00
    Xemix 6222 PS DVD player - Anthracite £ 150.00
    VCR & DVD Accessories XEMIX FRONT FLAP PLATINUM £ 50.00
    XEMIX FRONT FLAP GRAPHITE £ 50.00
    LOEWE ACCESSORIES & UPGRADES
    Infra Red repeater ARS IR-LINK Q2400/Q2500-Q2550M - Q2550B £
    30.00
    VGA VGA Q2400/Q2500 - Q2550M - Q2550H - inc IR repeater £ 75.00
    Multi Media MULTIMEDIA KIT £ 100.00
    MULTI MEDIA KIT SPHEROS £ 100.00
    CONTROL @ MEDIA KEYBOARD GRAPHITE £ 99.00
    Online Plus RETRO ONLINE PLUS INTEGRATED £ 599.00
    Spheros Online Plus Graphite £ 675.00
    Spheros Online Plus Platinum £ 675.00
    ONLINE plus for Xelos SL Spheros32/37 £ 999.00
    Control@Media keyboard £ 95.00
    DVB-S SAT VI Q2400 COMBINED A/D RECEIVER £ 130.00
    SAT RETROFIT VI Q2500 £ 130.00
    RETROFIT KIT TWIN SAT-VI Q2500 £ 180.00
    Xelos A26/32/37 digital sat tuner upgrade £ 75.00
    DVB-T RETRO DVB-TV 2 T-CI Q25XX £ 299.00
    RETRO DVB-TV 2 Q25xx BASIC £ 199.00
    Q25XX B software update £ 35.00
    Q25XX M software update £ 35.00
    Q25XX H software update £ 35.00
    Dolby Digital DOLBY DIGITAL AC3 KIT Q25XX,S2550,R2550 £ 150.00
    DOLBY DIGITAL AC3 Q2400 £ 150.00
    Integrated Hard Disk recorder Digital recorder Plus Aconda Q2550 only £
    595.00
    DIS Module DIGITAL INPUT SELECTOR (Q25 & Q2550) £ 50.00
    Home Automation HOME AUTOMATION STARTER KIT £ 195.00
    UNIVERSAL DIMMER £ 129.00
    Remote Controls RC1 Remote control £ 175.00
    RC2 Remote control £ 150.00
    RC3 Remote control £ 99.00
    RC4 Remote control £ 99.00
    CONTROL 1 £ 185.00
    CONTROL 10 sold out
    CONTROL 150 £ 99.00
    CONTROL MM/D-BOX £ 99.00

    Ex Demonstration
    Concept L42 Plasma CTV - ex display
    New Price £2499 Ex Display £1995

    Spheros 42" Plasma, Online Plus - ex display
    INC Online upgrade for internet and email
    Motorised table top stand
    New Price £7065 Ex Display £3995

    Spheros 37" LCD Platinum
    Spheros Cube 2 stand inc motorised base
    Analogue media box
    New Price £4600 Ex Display £3495

    Spheros 37" LCD High Gloss Basalt
    DR+ hard disc recorder included
    Analogue media box, table top stand
    New Price £4295 Ex Display £3495

    Articos 32" CRT High gloss basalt DVB-t
    Articos stand high gloss basalt inc motor unit
    New Price £3690 Ex Display £1995

    Prices from TV&Video Direct
    How much is the spheros 37 R with DR+ in basalt = £4115.00 platinum = £3782.00
     
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    No wonder people who buy Loewe don't seem to care about price... The price list is nearly un-understandable :)
     
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    If I was to get the Spheros R32 without signal box, would I still be OK to use NTL. The signal boxes don't have the scart ports or HDMI on them do they ?
     
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    Damnit, think they might well do !
     
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    The Spheros R is a single integrated unit. The signal box is for the original LCD Spheros or Xelos SL - its actually the same just different colour. The signal box has DVI only.

    When you are specifying a Loewe TV, make sure you know what options that you want and are paying for. They are highly cutsomisable, especially the models with the signal box.
     
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    Yeah, bit of a typo. Meant the Spheros 32 Spheros 32 HD Display - Platinum - Signal box not included, not the Spheros R32 Spheros R32 LCD DVB Freeview Platinum.

    Basically i need to know what connections are on the signal box and if I could live without it. Need SCART for NTL, component connections and HDMI for the future. Is this all on the TV itself or on the signal box ??
     
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    Sunrunner justr beware that the older spheros cf the spheros R does not have Image + processing. Mind you I have yet to see this in action - I am not sure how much better the picture is with it.
     
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    Thanks, wasn't aware of that. Still trying to find somewhere locally, I can look at a Loewe (at this point any Loewe !!). Am seriously tempted to get the Xelos A32, without actuallly seeing it, from here
    What do you reckon ? I know it doesn't have the Freeview but I don't need it.

    Any comments or suggestions would be gratefully received.

    Thanks

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    Ask IanH64 he bought a xelos and can tell you the pros and cons over the xelos vs spheros. Tv and video direct is a good store, and if you email them Anthony Stuchbury will get back to you, he is pretty straight with you. Just compare like with like with peter martin as for the spheros at least peter martin appears to be cheaper at present. Seeing them both in person - the Xelos chassis in anthracite looks a bit plastic compared with that of the spheros - partially due to the glass front on the spheros. Also as said previously, depending on the options selected it is a matter of 3-400 between them. Another alternative if going for the xelos is to get a quote from both stores and then approach J. Lewis and get them to price match - you can demo them in John lewis too. The spheros they do not have but can order one for £5000+ (see how it pays to shop around!).

    Also this link will tell you where loewe is near to you http://www.loewe-uk.com/haendler_de,263,53.html

    I plan on buying a spheros R this winter - waiting to see what happens in the sales as they were quite good last year. When the xelos came out peter martin was offering a free loewe dvd recorder.
     

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