Texas Hold 'Em: Delayed and Not Free

m1ket

Well-known Member
Its totally obvious what the problem is and its a good one, xbox live has done so well that the amount of money required to keep this game free would have risen dramatically in the last 6 months

just think about it the average xbox live game costs between £30,000 and £50,000 to make the top titles sell over 150,000+, £4 to £10 to buy a game, yeh big returns on expenditure

that sponsor would have to pay a hell of a lot of money to keep it free.... remember the only previous pay arcade model was on pc and less than 3% of people bought the game after playing it im guessing negotiations were baed on maybe 10%, its over 20% or up to 40% on some games
 

Markoos

Novice Member
Oh well, it's the kind of thing I would've had for free but certainly wouldn't pay good money for a glorified advert.
 

SpikeyTheFatGit

Novice Member
If we do have to pay, I don't think it'll contain the advertising - that was the whole point of it being free - we get a free game they get guaranteed exposure with the ingame placements.

I'd happily pay up to 800pts for this as it'll be a good one to chill out on. Obviously this won't beat face-to-face poker with friends, but as one of mine is about 300 miles away, it's a lot more convenient!
 

dave1de

Novice Member
I reckon it would be 400 points, and would struggle to sell at any more.

I mean if you want to play poker, you can just download software from a well known casino and go on free play.
 

SpikeyTheFatGit

Novice Member
daveide said:
I mean if you want to play poker, you can just download software from a well known casino and go on free play.
True, but none I've seen/tried have voice chat.
 

SpikeyTheFatGit

Novice Member
Luck of the Draw - Get one of every type of hand from High Card to Royal Flush

The odds of getting a Royal Flush is something like 64,000 to 1 so that's a pretty tough achievement - don't see many people getting it in a hurry!
 

jonnydynamite

Novice Member
SpikeyTheFatGit said:
The odds of getting a Royal Flush is something like 64,000 to 1 so that's a pretty tough achievement - don't see many people getting it in a hurry!

I think that's just if you draw any 5 cards. The odds should be reduced in Texas Holdem as you are basically playing with the best of 7 cards (2 of yours and the 5 in the middle). Now I was rubbish at stats at school and know very little about poker so maybe someone could enlighten us with the real odds!
 

NackNack

Banned
dave1de said:
I reckon it would be 400 points, and would struggle to sell at any more.

I mean if you want to play poker, you can just download software from a well known casino and go on free play.
You seriously under-estimate how many people are waiting for this game then, and the desire to play with the Vision camera.
SpikeyTheFatGit said:
The odds of getting a Royal Flush is something like 64,000 to 1 so that's a pretty tough achievement - don't see many people getting it in a hurry!
But in reality it's never like that, I've had one in the time I've been playing, and no way have I completed 64 000 hands.
 

bishman

Well-known Member
jonnydynamite said:
I think that's just if you draw any 5 cards. The odds should be reduced in Texas Holdem as you are basically playing with the best of 7 cards (2 of yours and the 5 in the middle). Now I was rubbish at stats at school and know very little about poker so maybe someone could enlighten us with the real odds!
I've been playing Texas Hold 'Em online for a few years now and have never seen a royal flush. I had a straight flush once but that's the best hand I've seen. Seems like a silly achievement as it's down to pure luck. It also encourages people to stay in hands on silly draws just on the offchance that they might bpick up runners for these types of hands. This whole game is just going to be silly on live, I really can't see the point. Like someone else said, go to one of the poker sites to play, although I do agree with the point about voice chat.
 

bishman

Well-known Member
NackNack said:
You seriously under-estimate how many people are waiting for this game then, and the desire to play with the Vision camera.

But in reality it's never like that, I've had one in the time I've been playing, and no way have I completed 64 000 hands.
It's 649,740:1 in 5 cards, not 64,000:1!
 

SpikeyTheFatGit

Novice Member
bishman said:
It's 649,740:1 in 5 cards, not 64,000:1!

But with Holdem, you choose 5 out of the 7 available so the odds are better :lesson:
 

bishman

Well-known Member
SpikeyTheFatGit said:
But with Holdem, you choose 5 out of the 7 available so the odds are better :lesson:
What's with the lesson? I said in 5 cards and was just correcting the earlier misquoted odds.
 

Noggin1980

Well-known Member
But in reality it's never like that, I've had one in the time I've been playing, and no way have I completed 64 000 hands.

For everyone that gets it nice and early there will be people who get it very late or never get it.

I've played many hours of poker and never seen one but it's just as likely that someone who has never played poker before will get it on their first hand as me getting it on my next hand. Just the luck of the draw.
 

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