Terminator 2: Judgment Day Ultra HD Blu-ray Review & Comments

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    1. Casimir Harlow

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      Looking forward to blasting this again :thumbsup:
       
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      Grain was present due to the technology used at the time, it was not an artistic choice by the director 'to add grain'. I have no idea why people are complaining!

      Look forward to this one!
       
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      This could be a future purchase for me when the prices drop. I'm starting to get fed up with changing versions of movies not knowing which is the right print. I recently was given the arrow version of The Thing, loved by 90% of fans. I found it too bright and too much grain showing up badly in the sky and parka jacket's. I'll stick with the universal one. This version of T2 sounds great with little grain. I want films to pop on my OLED and look better than they did on plasma and CRT. Whats the point if they don't look any better and are full of grain.
       
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      Indeed, if film technology was starting afresh then it wouldn’t be grainy, real life is not grainy
       
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      Can't wait for Schwarzenegger in Terminator 14- Geriatric day in 8K
      Arrggh mee back!
       
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      I'm guessing theres an extended cut version in the works, then an alternate ending version, then a 3 in 1 version, then the 30th anniversary edition to look forward to, then on to 8k :)
       
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      Thanks for the review Cas,in full agreement,but as you say cant see why we couldn't have all the cuts in full 4K :(:)
       
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      The revisionist argument is an interesting one. If we want movies to be presented EXACTLY as they were in the cinema back in the day, then you can throw HDR in the bin entirely.

      Personally I say leave it up to the director. It's his film, so he can do what he likes with it. We then have the choice whether to give him our money or keep it in our pockets. The director get the final say on everything.
       
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      The Thing is one of my favourite movies and I thought Arrow's print (which was supervised and approved by Carpenter himself) was great. It looked very film like, which is generally how I like things to look.
       
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      Grain removal doesn't just remove grain, it removes detail right across the frame. If it's overdone it can lead to faces looking like they're made of wax.

      Grain can be distracting if it's excessive, and HDR makes grain hugely worse, but it also create a nice, warm, film like image. The Leon 4K disc is a good example of this.
       
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      Thanks for the review Cas,

      This was a day one preorder for me, but I went for the us version so I also got a digital copy.
      I saw the 3D version in the cinema too, buying into the “only showing once” promise that turned our to be bogus!

      Overall I think it’s a great disc, severely let down by the lack of alternate versions.
      Those missing scenes are some of my favourites, especially the chip and smiling scenes :)

      My worry is that this will be a continued trend, and when the alien films get the 4K treatment we will be having the same disappointment!
       
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      Except there is way more detail visible on the de-grained UHD than on the previous blu-ray releases, fine facial and body hairs being the most noticeable improvement.

      Personally I love the UHD in all it's DNR'd glory. I view it as James Cameron got a lift back to 1991 and filmed it on digital cameras rather than film, or it was made in an alternate universe where digital cameras were invented 30 years before they were in our one.
       
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      Hope its better than the skynet version watched once and never again completely ruined my enjoyment of T2
      I remember the DVD version of T2 PQ being as being excellent (No upscaling) along with quite a few other DVD's looking better than the Blu-ray
      Ooooops what have I just done
       
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      What about Greedo shooting first?

      Runs for cover damn quick. :rotfl:
       
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      I don't really get the current obsession with "detail". I mean, does being able to make out Sarah Connors individual downy hairs make this version more enjoyable than the non downy hair version? Do people sit watching in stunned awe because they can finally see the stitching on Arnies leather jacket?
       
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      Might as well watch upscaled blu-rays otherwise...;)
       
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      Yes
       
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      'Current' obsession?

      Oh dear.
       
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      Image manipulation/presentation issues aside, there's no way on earth I'd shell out for a 4K version of this that doesn't even contain the special editions. Epic fail!
       
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      Why are you even in this forum then?
       
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      Had this sat on my shelf for weeks. After reading that it doesn't sound as bad as I have been expecting.
       
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      You'll see. Or won't see, as it's been wiped away lol
       
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      I'm sorry, I didn't realize that opinions aren't welcome here.

      Maybe I'm here so I can decide if it is worth upgrading to 4K?

      Still not convinced, by the way.
       
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      You mean a old print that had been around god no how many cinema,before it ended up at my local flea pit,and in the old days when you could smoke,a haze of smoke as well. :D
       
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      Yes :laugh:;)
       
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      It is grainy in parts (esp dark scenes) but you know what, this film will be still be talked about in 100 years time.
      Well ahead of the curve like Total Recall from 1989.
      Have watched it in 4k UHD and bluray.
      Watched it twice at the pics (1991) and still love it today....
      The scene where he removes the skin from his hand and up his arm. (Still remember the gasp in the theater today)

      Thanks Cas for the review
       
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      A PQ score of 8/10 for this release is laughable.:confused:
       
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      Removing grain, if done right, will not impact the level of detail. This very review proves that. But as I say, it needs done correctly.
       
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      Real life is not 24fps either ;)
      (HFR films look crap though - I don’t want it looking like real life)
       

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