Teacher murdered in Leeds

[Pecker]

Horrible news just come into the staff room.

BBC News - Teacher stabbed to death at Leeds school

Steve W

 

[SteakAndCake]

I wonder what she did that made a child want to stab her.

 

[Exemplar]

I wonder what she did that made a child want to stab her.

Want to start a list?

1) She 'disrespected' him

 

[Pecker]

I don't know if you're trying to joke, but I find that comment to be extremely offensive.

I wonder if you'd have said the same about Stephen Lawrence?

Steve W

 

[Exemplar]

No I was not and if you find it offensive then I apologise for your misgivings

 

[Pisto_Grih]

No I was not and if you find it offensive then I apologise for your misgivings

I don't think that was aimed at you.

 

[Exemplar]

Meh

 

[SteakAndCake]

I wonder if you'd have said the same about Stephen Lawrence?

Steve W

Sure, for any murder, I question the motivation. Even if senseless, the student or any murderer will have justified it to themselves.

 

[Pecker]

Sure, for any murder, I question the motivation. Even if senseless, the student or any murderer will have justified it to themselves.

But you didn't. You didn't ask why he killed her.

You asked what the teacher did to make him kill her.

Steve W

 

[Rock Danger]

But you didn't. You didn't ask why he killed her.

You asked what the teacher did to make him kill her.

Steve W

And why is that an offensive thing to ask?

 

[IronGiant]

I guess it's the way it was phrased, a bit like the "so, have you stopped beating your wife yet?" question. "What did she do to provoke him?" implies that she must have done something to trigger the attack.

 

[Rock Danger]

I guess it's the way it was phrased, a bit like the "so, have you stopped beating your wife yet?" question. "What did she do to provoke him?" implies that she must have done something to trigger the attack.

Murder usually has a motive tho. She could have done any number of normal teacher things, that made this kid snap.

Or he might be stark raving Elvis and was obeying 'the voices' - the latter is much more plausible tho.

 

[PSM1]

If we were in America I am sure the response would be to arm the teachers to prevent further occurrences.

 

[jonna]

If proven guilty he will probably be jailed,then using his age as an excuse for his actions released within 10 years and given a new id.

 

[Pecker]

I note that, in amongst the trickle of information, it appears she was Head of Year 11, and this was a Year 11 student in a Year 11 class.

Good pastoral staff are worth their weight in gold, and regularly have to deal with the most difficult and (very occasionally) dangerous situations.

Steve W

 

[Dextur]

I wonder what she did that made a child want to stab her.

Probably told him to sit down and behave and he didn't like it , ya know blud!

 

[Dextur]

It will come a day , teachers will be behind bullet proof glass.

Teaching is a profession nobody in their right mind would enter into nowadays.

Most people have no comprehension how bad morale is and how hard most teachers work.

So called 8-4 working hours is a joke, try being married to a good teacher.

Everyday you bring back the children's worries and problems on top of enough work to bury most.

 

[SteakAndCake]

It will come a day , teachers will be behind bullet proof glass.

Teaching is a profession nobody in their right mind would enter into nowadays.

Most people have no comprehension how bad morale is and how hard most teachers work.

So called 8-4 working hours is a joke, try being married to a good teacher.

Everyday you bring back the children's worries and problems on top of enough work to bury most.

I agree and yet, all you hear in the media, are stories of lazy teachers and never ending holidays and inset days. It's beyond disgusting. If I had to spend every working day with 30 hormonal kids, damn right, I'd need a 6 week break. When the teachers do try and help themselves with the only really powerful tool they have left: striking, they are even further vilified for it. Makes me sick.

 

[Dextur]

The media plays to the lowest common denominator, that's the tabloids core audience.

The teaching profession is at such a low ebb, it's not hard to imagine a total break down of the profession in a couple of decades.

Being a teacher means you need to be a social worker, a copper, an educator a shrink...

it's a job that can be immeasurably rewarding when you reach a kid, but overall it's a job eroded by crack handed government interference, a removal of teachers tools they had to control classes and chavvy , delusional parents who use it as free baby sitting and moan the second poor Kylie is told off.

Wouldn't do it for all the tea in China.

 

[SteakAndCake]

The media plays to the lowest common denominator, that's the tabloids core audience.

The teaching profession is at such a low ebb, it's not hard to imagine a total break down of the profession in a couple of decades.

Being a teacher means you need to be a social worker, a copper, an educator a shrink...

it's a job that can be immeasurably rewarding when you reach a kid, but overall it's a job eroded by crack handed government interference, a removal of teachers tools they had to control classes and chavvy , delusional parents who use it as free baby sitting and moan the second poor Kylie is told off.

Wouldn't do it for all the tea in China.

The media have spun teachers as a lazy bunch babysitting cute little kids and enjoying endless coffee breaks and chats in the staff room. As usual, the "Great British Public" jump on the bandwagon bemoaning anyone who they perceive has having an easier ride in life instead regardless of fact or reality.

I've seen first hand how never ending Government meddling has undermined and handcuffed amazing educators and forcibly changed their roles into drones whose only objectives are be getting kids to pass exams whether they understand the source material or not, and not stabbing each other.

 

[la gran siete]

Probably told him to sit down and behave and he didn't like it , ya know blud!

my guess is he is a bit of head case, hearing voices etc. Fellow pupils described him as a bit weird and very much a loner

 

[la gran siete]

The media have spun teachers as a lazy bunch babysitting cute little kids and enjoying endless coffee breaks and chats in the staff room. As usual, the "Great British Public" jump on the bandwagon bemoaning anyone who they perceive has having an easier ride in life instead regardless of fact or reality.

I've seen first hand how never ending Government meddling has undermined and handcuffed amazing educators and forcibly changed their roles into drones whose only objectives are be getting kids to pass exams whether they understand the source material or not, and not stabbing each other.

hopefully the day will arrive when people finally accept how vitally important teachers are and learn to respect the profession as a whole much better, instead of lauding celebrities and footballers.The best are truly inspirational and she seemed to fit that mould .A very sad day

 

[Dextur]

my guess is he is a bit of head case,

I think that's a given LGS.

 

[sniffer66]

It will come a day , teachers will be behind bullet proof glass.

Teaching is a profession nobody in their right mind would enter into nowadays.

Most people have no comprehension how bad morale is and how hard most teachers work.

So called 8-4 working hours is a joke, try being married to a good teacher.

Everyday you bring back the children's worries and problems on top of enough work to bury most.

Agreed. My wife is "only" a TA (read almost same responsibilities as her teacher, much less pay) and she comes home stressed out every day. For about £8.50 ph
Other peoples kids can be hell

 

[Sonic67]

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