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TAG CDT20R versus TAG DVD32FLR

Discussion in 'TAG McLaren Audio Owners' Forum' started by Santiago, Mar 5, 2005.

  1. Santiago

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    Hello All,

    Bit of a TAG forum virgin looking for opinions..... I am currently using a TAG CDT20R (with Tagtronic) for playing CDs and am thinking of getting a DVD32FLR to replace it - I will be using it 95% for music as opposed to DVD.
    Any thought or opinions on the relative qualities of both for CD playback?

    Richard
     
  2. Kenny Glasgow

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    Richard

    I have just upgraded from a CDT20-T2L to a DVD32FLR and the imrovements are worth it on CDs alone :thumbsup:

    I think that the CDT20 is fantastic when sync'd to my AV32R but the FLR does beat it. Even my good lady admitted to hearing the differences.

    It also plays DVDs brilliantly as well :smashin:
     
  3. Inotrope

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    I'm considering this too, as you know I have a DPA32R - this should sound the same as a AV32R in 2 channel mode shouldn't it?

    Will the DVD32FLR be a beast to set up without connecting it to a telly?

    Its only money....
     
  4. Kenny Glasgow

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    A TV would only be needed for Picture set-up and Sync link (if DPA has it?).
     
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    Yes, the DPA has the sync link, but is that not configured by default on the DVD32FLR (as it is on the CDT20R)?
     
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    You could be right and probably are. I didn't pay much notice :eek: to what I was doing, I just followed the set-up wizard.

    I think you'll need a TV however for the TAGTronic Bus which is a superb feature and well worth it, even if you just have a screen connected temporarilly
     
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    Hi guys

    I've had both the AV32R and DPA32R, and can assure you that the sync link and Tagtronic bus are configured very differently on the units. The AV32R uses the full blown tv on screen display to set everything up, but the DPA32R has not got this facility as it has no video gubbins inside it. You simply set it up using the remote and the front panel display, and scroll through the settings. When my DPA arrived, it did not have the correct remote and I had to wait a couple of days, so I am very sure about this feature as I had a CDT20RT arrive too....

    Is the FLR really that much better than the CDT? I know it's based on old technology, but the CDT takes some beating when it's got the T2 link switched on in my opinion.

    Cheers - Spencer

    ps - sorry you missed out on my DPA Mark, it sold the day I advertised it as it was almost brand new, with the 192 DACs and DAB on board. I had to let it go cheap as I needed to raise a few quid for another project :thumbsdow
     
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    Not to worry - I' ve got two DPA32R now both 192/24, one with DAB, one was brand new too!

    Upgrading again now - might change the (new) monoblocks for a 2x 250x2 if I can find any for peanuts!
     
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    hey guys,

    i'm for years a owner of a av32r and a 100x5r but it takes until know to get noticed about this forum....

    so here's my first post :hiya: :rotfl:

    @Santiago
    do you have buyed an dvd32flr yet?? is the quality much better than with the cdt20r (for cd listening)?

    @all
    i'm considering about to buy a cdt20r t2l or a dvd32r (top loader) for cd-listening.

    the cdt20r is a new one via ebay.co.uk.
    the dvd32r is one of the first produced via a friend of mine.

    unfortunetly the dvd32r is 3-times expensive then the cdt20r...

    i'm looking for the best cd-listening-chain which i could get...
    so is cd-listening on a dvd32 really much better than on a cdt20r t2l???

    thankx a lot for your views

    SOKO
     
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    Mark - did you see the £1,299 250x2R that hifibits had then? I'd count that in the peanuts division seeing as I paid £2,700 for my original one, and that was after some very hard bargaining I can assure you! I'm affraid the 250R is better than a couple of monoblocks per channel as I had 2x8000M's and 2x8000MX's before it, and I didn't hessitate when I heard the 250R.

    Couldn't resist buying a DVD32 when I stumbled upon one the other day :D
     
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    Looks like I waited too long on the 250X2R..., mind you it might have been a bit much after ordering a AV32R DP, DVD32FL +PSM (hifibitz)and a 100x5 (from Lintone!) - I think the missus would have been a little suspicious of all these new boxes!

    I'd be looking to sell the 4x 125Ms (only 5 weeks old!!) to fund a 250x2 / 3 at some point, and I guess I ought to part with the other DPA32R, when IAG have finished upgraded the DAC to 192/24 (I bet they are really busy now!).
     
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    Right, thought I'd re-open this!
    Does anyone have any thoughts on wether the FLR beats a CDT20R T2L for 2 channel - to my ears the CDT has the edge - but is there any science to which is technically better?
     
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    Can't give you any science but I think the FLR has the edge..... :D I play the same tracks/albums I've used for years when I ever I try and decide (guess?) which is best. This time however the little lady decided before I had! :eek:
     
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    Thats what I am doing this morning, and it is a tough, tough call - although I cannot help thinking that the CDT has the edge on bass weight and "musicality". Both have a crisp, clear midrange and treble.

    But as you say, it is really guesswork, and the law of deminishing returns applies!

    Anyone else any thoughts?
     
  15. Kenny Glasgow

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    so what tracks/albums do you use Mark?
     
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    This morning, PF; The Wall, Keb' Mo; Just like you, and Norah Jones & Peter Malick; New York City EP. Daren't turn the volume past 56 on the DPA (thats living in a flat for you!).

    The subtle lack of bass depth on the title track of Keb' Mo's album is slightly noticable to me with an unblinded A/B test.
     
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    Use Keb Mo too - spooky :eek: Also PF DSOTM, Sgt Pepper, Woodface, PG So, This Strange Engine (Marillion), Abbey Road, Imagine, All Things Must Pass, East of the Sun, West of the Moon (A-Ha), Tubular Bells II, Band On The Run, Bryter Layter, Hunky Dory, Steel Wheels (Stones - I know, I know).

    Most recent addittions have been Aimee Mann's Lost In Space and Shawn Colvin's Whole New You
     
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    Its great to see so many albums in you collection which I also enjoy; especially Bryter Layter. I've recently been introduced to Eric Bibb - which, like Keb' Mo is very well recorded.

    Did you have chance for an A/B comparison with your transport?
     
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    Both drives are quite close but (at least in my setup) the FLR is superior in A/B comparisons.
    The soundstage is deeper and the instruments are more detailled.
    Test CDs used: Norah Jones, Diana Krall, Eric Bibb
     

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