Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by Phil Hinton, May 8, 2019.
I don’t think anything about it because it’s pointless.
I love the metal grill on my PB-4000! Coming from a Paradym Servo15 sub, with a fabric grill that started peeling as the glue aged and which I never could get perfectly repaired, the grill on the PB-4000 will be like new for eternity. The rest of it feels the same way.
I second the comments on Aquaman. The bass is like another form of dialogue, adding immesely to every scene. I know Aquaman is dismissed as a silly superhero movie but, even compared to the much more Shakespearean Avengers: End Game, the PB-4000-enhanced home experience of 4K Aquaman made me happier than any film ever.
The classic being that everyone seems to conveniently forget that US prices are net of Sales and State taxes also... it's a bit like us quoting all of our prices ex VAT. Suddenly they look a lot better but they're not a true representation of what you actually pay!
To get them here as has already been said, involves duty, freight and our taxes too.
Back on topic though... a cylinder 3000 series would've tempted me too... the 4000 was too big for the space I had, hence looking elsewhere in the end.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but that metal grille just isn't for me. Otherwise though, the PB-4000 is an awesome subwoofer. I'll bet Aquaman was the 'nad's de chien' on that baby!
EXCEPT--- we need the option of a white finish version!
The SB-2000 'Limited Edition' came in white for European markets.
Thanks Steve. I was really looking forward to this review. This sub could be tempting, but my god has it got to offer amazing performance for a single sub, because there’s no way I could afford or justify a pair.
In fact, it’s going to be one hell of a justification exercise for just one. What is SVS like for reliability, support and warranty issues in this country?
@Steve Withers I've been wanting to ask you something like this for ages, so now's my chance, in view of your recent reviews of the SVS SB-3000, Fyne Audio F3-12 and REL HT/1205 subwoofers!
Imagine that you have a room that measures about 18' x 13' x 9'. You have about £1,400 to spend on subwoofer(s). Further, this will be the only money that you can spend on subwoofers for at least the next three years.
Do you buy one more expensive subwoofer, or two smaller ones? Specifically, one SVS SB-3000 or two Fyne Audio F3-12 or two REL HT/1205 subwoofers?
Can anyone say if the SVS 3000 or the 4000 would be better than the REL HT/1508,
I noticed a knocking noise coming from my SB13U driver under high excursion, contacted SVS about it and sent them a video. I had a new driver plus all the tools to replace it within two days, which as a consumer would have been a $500+ service for the courier alone, all under warranty.
So yeah, it's not bad!
Any SVS 4000 would be a better HT sub than the REL HT/1508.
As good as this sub is I think it will struggle at its price point. You can have a psa 1510 for the same price or arendal sub 2 for abit more
Not hating on svs i own 2 of there subs but they increased they prices twice in 2016
I'm generally of the opinion that using two subs will help even out the bass in a room, but assuming the room you mention doesn't have any nasty characteristics then the SB-3000 could certainly handle it on its own and is the better sub (obviously).
Any chance @Steve Withers you could test the REL S3/SHO?
Just ordered two of these as my 16 year old Stentor III has sadly passed away (unfixable apparently, parts not available anymore). REL offered me a good discount in lieu of this, so very impressed with their service. Will report back when they turn up and are settled in.
Nice Review Steve. Hopefully a review of the PB3000 soon ? I prefer ported subs
@Steve Withers Thanks for your post #43, Sir!
You're welcome Ken. Was that a hypothetical room, or were you referring to the parlour?
It is indeed a hypothetical room! I thought that I would choose sizes that were somewhere intermediate between your home cinema room and my parlour! My parlour is actually 18' x 14'6" x 10'6". I think that your home cinema room is slightly smaller than mine, certainly with a lower ceiling, hence I went for 18' x 13' x 9' as roughly halfway between my room and yours.
I liked the review of the SB-3000. SVS seem to be on a roll. I look forward to a review of the PB-3000 (which at "only" 37.3kg, is fully 30 kg lighter than the 69.5kg PB-4000!).
You can get a taste at AVSF where Jim Wilson has reviewed it. Jim is also member here, so can further comment if he sees this...
"I beat the living you-know-what out of this thing and it never flinched. No matter the volume, no matter how punishing the source material, it shrugged off everything. Composed and powerful is a nice combination."
Agreed, hence I traded my SB-3000 for a Sub 2 before even trying it!
Yup, if they had still done them, i'd still have one! Seems it was very short run... if they did an SB3000 i'd have upgraded to that happily too! I did like my SB2000, but am keen to try out my knew Sub 2
Yeah, I heard it was a short run but did sell out quickly.
I've asked my local dealer and SVS themselves but they both say there are no plans to make more white finish models. Which really is ashamed since white subwoofers/speakers sell very well in Europe. Primarily to those with their home theatres in a contemporary living room I would imagine. Best of luck with the Sub 2 - I've heard many good things about it! There won't be dual sets of the SB3000 for me unless it comes in white.
You purchased a SB-3000, didn't try it, then swapped it for a SUB 2 ?
Correct. Sub 2 was much more suitable aesthetically and lets be honest isn't going to be rubbish. An opportunity presented itself that was financially suitable to both me and the person looking to exchange their Sub 2...
Yup, i asked them the same when looking. Sold my SB2000 when we moved house as I knew it wouldn't be used for ages. If there had been a white one (although it is gloss to be fair and i prefer Matte) then I may not have bothered with all the changing! Fingers crossed the Sub 2 lives up to the hype - it certainly lives up to the weight claims!!!
So, moving up to £1200+ gives you more subtlety and control. Interesting. My xtz 1x12 is very good but a bit uncontrolled at times. In a hypothetical world where I’m upgrading, not sure if I’d go for something like SVS or a Genelec sub that integrates with my 8040s...
Thanks for the review... I would love to see a review on BK's newer sub P12-300SB-PR Platinum P12300-SB
Any chance you could post measurements as to how low it managed to go easily, volume and the -3db level?
Would this be a big upgrade over my arendal sub 1?
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