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SVS Pc+20-39 & Matrix Reloaded

Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by Toekiller, Oct 10, 2003.

  1. Toekiller

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    Well it arrived. :D

    After calibration , I sat down and was literaly blown away.

    Some bass is subtle, some isn't I'm learning.

    Two scenes at the end. The Final building exploding and the rescue ship had the foundations rattling.

    Awesome. I can feel movies at last. :smashin: :D
     
  2. Gizmo 76

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    Don't own a SVS Sub but the Matrix Reloaded DD5.1 Track is pretty damn good, superb picture as well :clap:

    Watched it this afternoon at reference level as it's a bit quieter than most(honest:rolleyes:). It's probably not as in your face as you might except, but all the punches, kicks, gun shots, expolsions and music let you know why you brought your sub.

    And the two scenes that Toekiller mention's are standouts for sure.:smashin:
     
  3. ChrisNic

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    I found it was a bit quieter than most aswell so you arent the only one!
     
  4. General Skanky

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    Me too. It meant going to some insane levels from normal which I don't like too much. A higher initial level suits me better.

    Mind you, fun watching the baby sit up in the loud bits.:devil: :rolleyes:
     
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    I think the average soundtrack is a tad loud.... fair enough explosions should be, but i often find that to get the explosion action bits at a good level, the dialogue often seems to be shouting!

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  6. MuFu

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    That's a fantastic liver-wobbling bit. :D

    There's some sweet LFE in The Animatrix as well - in Final Flight when she's swinging on the pipes comes to mind.

    MuFu.
     
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    I also discovered the start of, Attack of the clones. The big ship passing the camera and it exploding on the pad was frankly silly. :D
     
  8. ddlooping

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    "but i often find that to get the explosion action bits at a good level, the dialogue often seems to be shouting!"

    That's a problem I encounter with quite a lot of AC3 soundtracks.
    Dolby compression can be really annoying. :rolleyes:
    Maybe they'll release a DTS full-debit version. :D (would it fit on one disc though?)
     
  9. Smurfin

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    Got nothing to do with it.
     
  10. MuFu

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    Dynamic range compression does though. Make sure it's off!

    Reloaded makes pretty good use of the full dynamic range, IMO. Did find it a little quiet overall as well though.

    MuFu.
     
  11. ddlooping

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    My bad.

    So why is it DTS soundtracks are often more dynamic then the AC3 ones? (I'm not being sarcastic)
     
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    It's how it's mixed imho, nothing to do with how "good" each format is. I believe that different engineers sometimes do the individual soundtracks, i.e dd or dts....so it comes down to them to a degree.
     
  13. rags

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    So are you saying that most DTS soundtracks are mixed by better engineers as I find most DTS soundtracks to be better (with a few exceptions of course) than the equivalent DD ?
     
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    No idea Rags, my point is that I don't believe Dolby Digital is inferior to DTS - movies are mixed differently that's all, and the levels of channels is a big factor.

    e.g many people mistake louder rears as "better".

    Anyway, I don't want this to turn into a DD/DTS debate...I was simply correcting an incorrect statement by ddlooping

    Nuff said:)
     
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    DVD Talk is the place for that and I don't think they've had a thread on that subject for nearly a week :rolleyes:
     
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    Exactly:)
     
  17. ddlooping

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    I have absolutely no problem with being corrected when wrong, but judging from your last reply you don't seem to know either. ;)

    @ Rags, I was going to reply in exactly the same words, but something stopped me. :D

    P.S: I'd appreciate if someone could point me to a thread covering this topic. The few searches I made came back with hundreds of results. :)
     
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    Thanks for the links MuFu, they make for very interesting and educating reading. :)
     
  20. SanPedro

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    Tee Hee!

    Know what you mean. Just had my Servo 15 back from being mended (it was 2nd hand and faulty, but didn't sound it when I demoed it - only certain films ie. AOTC showed it up).

    Anyways, it's now fab and I can see what all the fuss was about. You should really get a hold of Blade 2. This has a really kicking soundtrack. I was stunned when I played it yesterday. The vibration went right through my sofa. Fantastic surround effects and not a bad movie either.

    Chris
     
  21. rags

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    I thought Blade 2 wasa pretty crap movie but your right the surround sound is fab.
     
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    Re: sound track mixing. I thought that the soundtrack was mixed and then encoded into AC3, DTS, SDDS. So the mix is independant from the method used to transport it. I understand there are differing recommedations for how the mix is done from the companies, does this mean a studio has to pay for two or three mixes for the same film?
     
  23. rags

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    Exactly - if seperate mixing was required for DD and DTS I would have thought one of the formats would have gone the way of Betamax by now.
     

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