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Svs for music, 2 channel, pb12 ultra?

Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by simonthepieman, Apr 12, 2005.

  1. simonthepieman

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    Hello
    I just wanted comments/ advise from members who use an svs with a 2 channel
    stereo system, for music (cd in the main).

    I am considering a pb 12 ultra, I think an ultra driver? as the quality of bass my be
    more hi-fi, 2 channel as opposed to home cinema?

    Also I realise it depends on the existing stereo pair of speakers, but at approx
    what crossover frequency do you roll the sub in at.
    Examples of speakers and settings would be great.

    In my room I would like to bolster the lower midrange and below, I think my room
    is having the affect of sucking some of the bass from my system, when used in
    another room the bass was amazing, but the previous room was soild i.e concrete
    floor, stone walls etc, now i have a wood suspended floor, floor boards (with Carpet), and some dry lined plaster board walls and some stone.

    So i am considering a sub as a relatively reasonably cost effective way to fill in
    some bass frequency, as opposed to altering the room (no chance with the wife)
    come to think of it i will probally have issues convincing the wife to site a sub
    that is why I am thinking pb 12 ultra not the even bigger ones!

    I use full range active ATC 100 sl speakers, for your info

    Please make comments/suggestions , thankyou
     
  2. Andywilliams

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    Hi simon
    Iam svsless at the moment after selling my 20-39pc+ waiting on my pb-ultra2.The cylinder was excellent with music very tight and controlled and wouldnt mind betting the same can be said of there other subs.Would you be able to have a cylinder as the pc-ultra would suit very well.Regarding the box subs pb-ultra and pb-plus the cabinets are nearly all the same size check out ther measurements on the svs sight.
    cheers Gonzo. :)
    ps my crossover is 80hz best thing to do is experiment and see what sounds best to your ears.
     
  3. Pollywoggle

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    I have a 25-31pc+ purely for stereo and it's awesome, I have it underpinning little mission 780se speakers. After extensive experimentation I have settled on a crossover of abot 41hz in my room. You will have to spend quite a bit of time adjusting up and down cos your room will affect the sound enormously. Will be worth it when you get it right though! :cool:
     
  4. alexs2

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    I've had a few subs over the past yrs(KEF,REL and now SVS),as well as trying out others at home.

    I've currently got an SVS PC-Ultra,and my main requirements for it were that it have sufficient depth,control,and speed to work with music as well as films,and be able to keep up with a pair of 300B monoblocs and Quad ESLs....it does all of those things and with ease.

    I'd have no hesitation in recommending them for music,and the service is also superb....mine arrived from the factory,faster than I'd taken delivery of my last sub from a UK manufacturer.
     
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    Alexs2,

    Did you order direct from the manufacturer or through a distributor - I'm interested in an svs sub and was wondering the best way to order?

    Thanks,
     
  6. Pollywoggle

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    You can only buy svs subs direct form svs, they do not sell through any distributor, by cutting out the middle man you get superb subs much cheaper than you could otherwise.
    It's easy to do from their website, just make sure you specify 220v for the UK!
     
  7. alexs2

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    There's a sticky at the top of the page you should read....details all of the process.

    Dead easy though....simply email the company for any advice you need re size and type of sub,and then place the order.
    You need to get the sub delivered door-to-door to avoid any import problems,but the spped of service and delivery are superb.
     
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    I also have a pb12-plus/2 in my home cinema setup and that is fantastic for music too, these things are pin sharp, they stop in a microsecond so you get lovely crisp sharp bass with no overhang. I love mine so much I want to get them a friend, a pb12-ultra/2 but my wife says I have to spend the money on landscaping the garden, boohoo :mad:
     
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    Thanks Alex, and Polly,

    Appreciated.

    Edited due to the fact I can't read!!!

    Apologies my little poggy!!! :D
     
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    Is this something that we should be told about :rotfl:
     
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    Having owned both, I can say the Ultra-driver will produce a more detailed bass, so for musicality (and precision) I would definitely opt for the Ultra (budget allowing).
     
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    Simonthepieman:


    I run a PB-12 Ultra/2 in a stereo only setup w/ B+W 602 S3s. The bass sounds amazing, and lifts the SQ of the whole system. Music becomes much more of an experience.

    I have a suspended wooden floor like you, so I have isolated it w/ sorbothane feet and a 600x900x50mm concrete slab. Between the slab and the carpet is a foam sheet that was part of the SVS packaging. It sounds far better this way as all the hideous rattling of floorboards and pipes etc is eliminted.

    The crossover is set at about 45 hz. I am so impressed with the sound I get with all music (I can't help but grin when i spin the gladiator OST) but notably with rock which i often find sounds poor with subs. Now it sounds like you're back a Reading festival!

    I cannot comment on the other SVS drivers but the ultras seem to do the trick
     
  13. Mroizouk

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    Here are 2 pics.

    I'm having withdrawal symptoms because as I'm at uni for another term, and the PB12-u/2 isn't the most portable of subs so it stays at home. gutted!

    Experiment with crossover settings as gonzo says, and also with positioning.
     

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    When or if you get a sub you should do a frequency response curve with your main speakers going as well.

    It doesn't have to be high tech. A RadioShack SPL meter and some test tones downloaded from snapbug and a bit of graph paper are good enough.

    I use an SVS 16-46 cylinder in a long all wooden boarded attic. I initially set the roll off on the sub to 40Hz because my floorstanders rolled off at 40Hz. It turned out I needed a 60Hz roll-off to nicely flatten a dip in the frequency response.

    Click on my signature for more details.

    Nimby
     
  15. simonthepieman

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    Thankyou all so far for your responses , I would most likely be going for the single driver
    pb12 ultra (just being launched) to save some space (its a little smaller than the dual driver
    boxes) and of course to save money, when compared to the pb 12ultra/2

    "The thing" please let us all know what the ultra is like and when they say they can ship it

    Any other users who use an svs with music/ hi fi systems ? Your comments are really useful!
     
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    mriozouk

    I like the sorb idea , what size room do you have ?
     
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    Most people seem to be under the impression that the single drive box subs are alot smaller when there nearly all the same dimensions give or take a few inches.
    Cheers Gonzo. :)
     
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    unfortunately, those few extra inches were the difference between me getting a PB12-Plus/2 and my eventual purchase of a PB12-Ultra.

    It was just too big to fit where i needed it :(

    Never mind, think I'll manage with my Ultra for now ;) :devil:
     
  20. simonthepieman

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    OK I have placed my order for the PB 12 ultra
    Shipping in MAY sometime looks Iike I now join "the thing" in the waiting game
     
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    Well done! I'm sure you'll enjoy it
     
  22. simonthepieman

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    Just an update got an email today from SVS they are building some pb12 ultra's today
    mine is one of the first batch, so will be despatching soon !!

    I will report when the sub arrives and how i go on with it in my music only system
     
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    mine was sent early this morning our time, I have a tracking number for Bax, so should arrive next week hopefully !!!! Can't wait :D
     

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