Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by nathan_silly, Sep 23, 2003.
Ere ye go!
I think I'd have to wait til the whole of my road is on holiday before turning that boy on.
Flicking through the review the key statement for me was..."From my listening experiences with the B4, it is obviously the most powerful subwoofer ever constructed for consumer use"
That's the B4 Plus. There's a B4 Ultra planned (with four Ultra drivers) Gulp.
I've also heard the PB2 Ultra will also have some Eq adjustments on the back. If this is true it's most likely the B4 Ultra will have as well.
If so it'll be similar to the Velodyne DD-18. And I would guess louder too. One 18" v 4 12"
Also interesting to read dealers may start to stock SVS. I for one find it very hard to part with my cash before I see and hear one. Especially hard given the company is overseas....call me old fashioned.
Isn't the 'Audio Control Phase Coupled Activator' taking gadgets too far?
dont you need something similar to this for the ever popular tactile transducers? otherwise they wouldt work!
It prevents you overloading the warp core as I recall
Well I'm not going to buy another processor until it's included as standard.
Come on TAG. Come on Meridian you know you want to.
Gotta say I'm a little dissapointed with the infrasonic ability of the B4, 20Hz and below is what makes a sub fun and it seems to be wanting in this area compared to...........oh no I'm not starting another argument. Having said that from 20Hz and up it seems awesome, probably be fantastic with music. The sub itself looks very very nice too.
The B4+ was tested in 25hz tuning configuration. So it isn't going to be able to do 15hz loudly/cleanly in this mode. Hitting 100dB/20hz/3% thd is pretty good considering that is already 1/3octave under the tuning point of a vented subwoofer..
Going from ground planing to in room...you'll get a 4 or 4.5dB boost per boundary(wall)....so figure 8-9dBs with the subwoofer in a corner. the ceiling can add another 1-2dBs depedning on construction and height. So that is 10dBs or so. "Room gain" can also add another 2-4dBs to the lower bass in the average room.
Ideally, we'd have a review with every possible tuning configuration and THD measurements at every 1/3 octave at 90,95,100,105,110,115,120,125dB output levels...but I guess we can't expect a reviewer to spend a month outside measuring a single speaker..
I guess by your signature and your knowledge you work for SVS. Could you tell me when you are expecting UK retailers to start stocking your subs? Do you know which retailers will be doing them yet?
I'm pretty keen to buy a sub this side of Xmas but I can't bring myself to order without seeing and hearing it...therefore I currently have my sights set on a Velodyne.
I'm not saying I'd buy a SVS over a Velodyne...just doing a bit of shopping
he kinda works for SVS.
That's why I opened by saying...
Then I followed by asking a question that someone working for SVS may know. i.e when will uk retailers start to stock SVS subs.
So don't roll your eyes at me young man
He's a co-founder of SVS.
Cool. So if he don't know no-one will know
AFAIK Tom is the V in SVS
You may not be happy to buy a sub without hearing it first but the commercial realities of life indicate that if SVS appoint a UK distributor they will wish to make a profit out of importing subwoofers and selling them onto retailers who will also wish to make a profit.
Whilst you may be happy paying £1,200 -£1,500 to a retailer for your 20-39 PC Plus I am sure that many more would rather continue to buy directly from the manufacturer at £750.
I very much doubt whether the company will appoint a UK distributor and continue to accept orders directly so my advice would be to buy now.
I underestand what you say and agree with you.
Still can't convince myself to buy a something for £900 I haven't seen. I can only go by reviews written by people I don't know, a 5" picture on a web site and a cardboard box made up to the right size.
Co-founder, employee, head of R/D...they are all the same here. (most of the time... Every one of our employees is involved in a profit sharing plan so we all feel like we are a major spoke in the hub.
As to dealers, that is something that MAY happen in 90 days, or it may never happen. For every obvious detail that needs to be negotiated, there are 10 others that drag the process on and on and on...
Marketing and sales related stuff like that really isn't my scene, so I don't keep up with the day to day issues involved. But I do know nothing is *right around the corner* or anything like that.
Thanks Tom. Sounds like a good company to work for.
At least you know how some people feel. We're not all as bold with our money as Ian.
When Ian decided to buy his sub hed been pondering on the idea for months.He also did plenty of research before parting with cash.Now i respect ian in that he has listened to quite a few well made subs so does no what hes on about so i put my trust in him and ordered my svs which i can say is the best sub i have heard to date,also it is the most musical sub i have ever heard to my ears .Best 800quid ive ever spent.
Cheers mate. I understand. Maybe after a few months I'll get my head round it and order one....maybe I'll just go and demo a Velodyne.
I'll need one of those less obtrusive box ones though
PM Liam McLaughlin of AV Sales (he is a forum member). AV Sales are forum sponsors and authorized Velodyne dealers and will price match any price offered from an authorized Velodyne dealer.
They also have full demo facilities not that far from you and as established dealers they will also accept credit cards.
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Thanks Ian. No plug needed mate. I have been talking to Liam about the SPL-800 I have a long and happy relationship with av-sales. Brilliant service and great prices.
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