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SVS 25-31PC+ placement

Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by dgr6966, Jul 30, 2005.

  1. dgr6966

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    I have just ordered an SVS 25-31PC+ to replace a broken M&K V-125. I plan on putting it the same place as the M&K, the right-hand corner of my lounge, behind the front right speaker. Unfortunately this will place the sub under a shelf that runs between the wall and the chimney breast with only about 2.5" clearance between the top of the sub and the bottom of the shelf.

    Anyone have an opinion on whether that is a good idea or not?

    I only really have one or other possible position, along the left hand wall, about 6' from the front wall so if the under-the-shelf option proves to be a no go I will end up wishing I had bought a box rather than a cylinder and as I am bringing the sub back with me from on holiday to save on shipping costs it could prove to be an expensive mistake.
     
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    I would have thought that it wouldn't be a good idea as the ports are at the top and 2.5" clearance may be enough but that is only a guess and an email to SVS should bring you a speedy response.

    Good luck bringing it back - are you taking a truck on holiday with you ?
     
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    Tom at SVS thought I should be OK with 2.5" clearance but said that was the bare minimum. I just wondered if anybody had any experience with positioning the sub directly under a shelf. I'll give it a go and if it doesn't work out I can always sell it on, although I would be disappointed.

    The sub weighs about 70lbs including packaging and as there are four of us going I am hoping to cover the weight in the standard baggage allowance. If I can persuade the wife to only take the clothes she really needs instead of her entire wardrobe I should be ok :rolleyes:
     
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    Do you realise the box is nearley the size of a wardrobe.
     
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    I have a 20-39 and the box for that is 20" wide 20" deep and 44" tall so I assume that yours will be 36" tall with the same width and depth. It may be difficult to visualise but it is a large box
     
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    If it's anything like the size of the PCU then trying to get one back on a plane could prove to be an expensive mistake! I'd be interested to know how you get on though - I'd be surprised if I was allowed to get just one of my BK's onto a passenger plane as luggage. :)
     
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    The dimensions I have been given are 20"x20"x37", about the same height as the box that my floorstanders came in but a bit bigger around. It is a pretty big box but only about the same size as the USAAF kit bag that my sister-in-law brings with her when she comes over from the States. :eek: I suppose I ought to check with the airline though.
     
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    The other thing to consider is will you be going through the nothing to declare channel or the declare channel as with such a large box I would think that you would be challenged and duty & vat will add around 23% so you would need the invoice with you so that they can calculate the correct taxes.

    If you take the risk and go through nothing to declare and they stop you, fines are steep.
     
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    I would reserve a pallet for the sub as it will need one in the cargo hold. :devil:
     
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    Voltage?

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    dgr6966

    Let's try that again: :)

    How do you organise a 250Volts 50Hz unit to bring home with you? Are you collecting it from the factory? :confused:

    Order an extra seat on the plane for the box. You'll need it! Then have a wad of cash handly for import charges and VAT at the airport. Plus internal inspection to ensure it's not full of anything but air! :devil:

    Take a look at my website to see what an SVS box really looks like. :D

    You'll need two strong people to carry the box between you for any distance. :oops:

    The sheer size and weight of the box makes it a difficult and bulky object to handle alone. I needed help just to get mine upstairs. :rolleyes:

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    My sister-in-law lives in Florida and I am having a 220v 25-31PC+ shipped to her address. The packing that the sub comes in is 20"x20"x37" and in total weighs in at 60lbs. I have confirmed with the airline that the size and weight of the package isn't a problem and I just need to make sure that my baggage allowance covers the extra weight. 60lbs is a fair weight and the size does make it awkward but I'm sure I'll manage - I do pec flies with more that that :) .

    You have a 16-46, I believe, which is considerably taller if not a great deal heavier. In any case, I understand that airports have trolleys to assist in the transportation of large items of luggage ;)
     
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    My parents also live in Florida, but having owned an SVS 25-31 PCi I could not imagine bringing one of these back on a plane myself. The box is indeed very large and heavy, and I feel that even IF the Airline should agree to an extremely large box taking up the space of about 10 suitcases in their cargo, that the overall experience could be quite challenging!

    Give it a whirl if you are planned for it, but I think if you get as far as GB customs that 'Goods to declare' may be the right route out of the airport.:)
     
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    I would definitely declare it. The Customs people have discretionary powers to heavily fine those not declaring goods. But you could always try leading an elephant through the terminal first... just to see if anyone notices. :boring:

    Nimby :)
     
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    the other thing to consider is the baggage handlers.Do the handlers who handle the suitcases also handle commercial consignments as I would not trust them to handle my SVS.What about insurance if they damage it what will they pay out.

    We all like a bargain and dont like to be ripped of by our government (taxes & vat) but if you are going to pay the relevant tax & vat on this item all you are saving is the shipping which should be no more than £100.Do you really want all the hastle and worry to save that amount of money.
     
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    By the way having it shipped to a US state means you have to pay the state sales tax which would not be applicable if shipping is overseas.So check the sales tax of the state its being shipped from as different states have different sales tax.
     
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    One last point,you have to pay SVS something for shipping to Florida (at least $60) so when you take that and the US state sales tax into consideration the saving would have been erroded down to less than £40.This is assuming you go through the declare channel.
     
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    Good point on the local sales tax. If you had it shipped to Florida you would finish up paying 6% sales tax and of course local delivery charges.
    Your plan may not finish up working out as cheap as you may have initially thought.
     
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    The shipping to Florida is $28, making a total of $803. Sales Tax is only applied to mail order items in the US when shipping within the state that the goods were purchased so I don't have to pay any. The shipping cost to the UK would be around $150 according to the SVS website and you have to pay duty and VAT on the landed price so that is another 23% making shipping around $185. So even if I pay the full duty and VAT I will have saved about £90. If I get away with Nothing to Declare I estimate that I will have saved close to £300 over the shipped direct price.

    The baggage handling is of some concern but I have seen how commercial handlers treat packages and I am sure the SVS is well packed. How easy is it to damage one of these things anyway? In that regard the size and weight provides some protection agains mishandling - it is hard to throw something like that around. :)
     
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    No it's not! Two peope can throw it sideways between them. Then they can pile the entire planeful of baggage on top! Remember that baggage handlers can't or don't read arrows for "this way up!". They haven't been trained to do so! The might even have access to fork lift trucks! Just imagine the fun they could have with that big box on the floor of the baggage handling department. I mean, nobody would be that stupid. Would they?

    Quite seriously I think you are barking mad to try and ge away with this. And I speak as one who collected a similar package 200 miles from home and then took it back home on the train. Just because it wouldn't fit in my hardtop sportscar.

    NEVER, EVER AGAIN! :devil:

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    I am barking mad :rotfl:
     
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    I'm sure that the customs officers will never notice a huge coffin sized package with SVS Subwoofers written all over it. :D
     
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    Why does "coffin" seem so appropriate to this thread? :devil:

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    Should be interesting seeing how it pans out.
    May start a trend too, overladen and harrassed Brits struggling back from Florida wearing Mickey Mouse ears, dragging pallets with enormous crates on!
     
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    Shouldn't that be "dog's ears"? Dog...woofer..barking? Suit yourselves. :D

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    You lot are so defeatist. Where's your sense of adventure? When my sub is safely installed in my living room having made a trouble-free journey from Ohio via Florida and Manchester I shall return to bask in my triumph whilst counting the £300 that I didn't have to spend. :D
     
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    Ha, ha. You're just killing me. :rotfl:
     
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    Remind him to take a medium crosshead screwdriver to open up the amp plate for inspection by Customs Officers. (It's only 12 screws and will immediately invalidate your guarantee)

    Oh, and a tool to get the top ring off to check inside for drugs, bombs, forged notes, porn, illegal immigrants and any old underwear that got past the rim of the spin drier. :rolleyes:

    This is really going to make their day! :D Customs and baggage handling staff will be laughing about this 6 months from now! :D If they ever let him into the country! He could be a member of the infamous international subwoofer smuggling gang. :eek:

    Could you try and pretend the box is invisible? "Er.... What box officer" :blush:

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    The thing that would worry me most is this: just because SVS packed it well does not mean that the airport staff will. From the time you put it on the luggage belt it is out of your control. If they open it up behind the scenes to see what it is (reasonable) then how sure are you that all the protective packing will go back in the right places to do its job?

    If you've ever tried to re-pack something in its original packing you know that it can sometimes be a bit of a brain teaser. Will the airport staff care enough about your 70lb sub to get it right? You'd better hope so. There is an element of risk involved to its wellbeing purely by going into the regular baggage hold. If you compound that with the liklyhood of its being examined first then your risk of getting home with something resembling a squashed toilet roll goes up an awful lot. Do check the maximum damages claim you can put in with the airline; it would be horrible if it did not actually cover the price of the sub should the worst happen.

    And another thing. Just because airline staff at this end have said it's OK to take on board, do you trust this to be a worldwide policy? How brave are you going to be to argue at that end should they refuse? What do you do then? Miss your flight or leave your subwoofer there?

    You will certainly have to pay the duty at this end. You are deluding yourself if you think otherwise. If you factor in this stark piece of reality, your self transportation scheme does not really seem like a good bet. It's an awful lot of risk to save £50.

    I'm currently waiting for my PB-12 Ultra to turn up. It's costing a small fortune, and this is not helped by the duties / delivery charges. But I know that if it turns up with a dent in it (or worse), one phone call to SVS will make it right. As the delivery is coming to a little over 10% of the cost, I think it's worthwhile for the peace of mind.

    Sorry to be a negative nancy. Just my opinion.

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