I think the hints they've been dropping make it BIG and NEW to the range. So we will have to wait and see.
What-ever it is, I have been told it is exciting!
What-ever it is, I have been told it is exciting!
How would the SVS PB-1000 Pro compare to the XTZ 12.17 EDGE?
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i would also like to know that because they are both 12'',at the same price and i need a SW asap!!!How would the SVS PB-1000 Pro compare to the XTZ 12.17 EDGE?
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i would also like to know that because they are both 12'',at the same price and i need a SW asap!!!
No unfortunately i dont. The price for SVS PB 1000 is 750E, exactly the same is for XTZ 12.17 EDGE (including transfering costs). I dont understand, both have 2 ports for moving air, so what is the difference?SVS has more output in the whole working range and bit lower port tuning. Plus you have two ports moving air, with 12.17 Edge you would only have one if using the deep bass mode. So less chance of port noise with SVS. You also typically get 5-10% discount for SVS if you ask from forum advertisers. Also as a bonus SVS has better customer support.
Edit. You live in Greece. Not sure do you get discount there, ask!
No unfortunately i dont. The price for SVS PB 1000 is 750E, exactly the same is for XTZ 12.17 EDGE (including transfering costs). I dont understand, both have 2 ports for moving air, so what is the difference?
yes but why is that? You should get more bass response when 2 of these ports are open.
What about the considerable difference in amp power, though?SVS has more output in the whole working range and bit lower port tuning. Plus you have two ports moving air, with 12.17 Edge you would only have one if using the deep bass mode. So less chance of port noise with SVS. You also typically get 5-10% discount for SVS if you ask from forum advertisers. Also as a bonus SVS has better customer support.
Edit. You live in Greece. Not sure do you get discount there, ask!
that was going to be my next question.What about the considerable difference in amp power, though?
SVS PB-1000 Pro: 325 W RMS, 820 W peak
XTZ 12.17 EDGE: 700 W RMS, 1045 W peak
What about the considerable difference in amp power, though?
SVS PB-1000 Pro: 325 W RMS, 820 W peak
XTZ 12.17 EDGE: 700 W RMS, 1045 W peak
Is there CEA-2010 data for the PB-1000 Pro yet?Measured SPL output is the only thing that’s reliable in any way, especially if you’re comparing subs of different brands.
I haven't seen any.Is there CEA-2010 data for the PB-1000 Pro yet?
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Is there CEA-2010 data for the PB-1000 Pro yet?
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Thanks!Ed posted these which as he added to the old PB1000 figures 1-1,5db for the 18-36hz octave and
3-4db for the more common 40hz-80hz octave where we see noticeable gains. This actually plays little louder than "old" PB2000 from 50hz upwards, but the larger cab and more power still rules at the 18-36hz region.
20hz - 101db
25hz - 104db
31,5hz - 105db
40hz - 110db
50hz - 112,5db
63hz - 112db
80hz - 111db
He also said. " PB1000 was always a subwoofer with little punch (kick bass), but strong at 20hz. PB1000 Pro has an upgrade at 50-100hz. So it will be more punchy now. "
There is gains in whole range and to compare XTZ 12.17 Edgee fully they would need to show measurements done in that one port mode, cause the way they have done it was using different port modes for different octaves, deep bass (left open), mid-bass (right open) and both open with eq2 (upper bass = useless mode for movies). In real life situation you would use only one mode through movie and usually either the left open or sealed cause the other ones are more or less usefull in normal situation.
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Do you mean that:
1. He got the actual numbers for the PB-1000 Pro and calculated a difference of 1-1,5 dB and 3-4 dB at those ranges, or
2. He assumed that the PB-1000 Pro would be 1-1,5 dB and 3-4 dB more powerful at those ranges and calculated the total output that you listed?
Excellent. I love his reviews. I'm expecting the PB-1000 Pro will be shown to punch well above its power spec weight.We will see third party measurements soon as James from Audioholics will measure the PB1000 Pro and put out review soon, when i asked i think he said next month.![]()
On a slight change of topic: does anyone know of cheaper / better alternatives to the SVS SoundPath legs?
They cost €70 here which I think is way too much for four fancy rubber pieces. It would add more than 10% to the price of a PB-1000 Pro here.
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On a slight change of topic: does anyone know of cheaper / better alternatives to the SVS SoundPath legs?
They cost €70 here which I think is way too much for four fancy rubber pieces. It would add more than 10% to the price of a PB-1000 Pro here.
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