Thanks for the info all I'v got to do now is decide which home cinima system to go for I'v got a Toshiba 36ZP18 telly and am using the surrond sound on that at the moment and of course its not a patch on a seperate system. I wanted to go the whole hog i.e ( Dennon amp, B & W speakers ) but the wife not to happy with large speakers in the living room. So thought i'd start of with a package, was looking at the Acooustic Energy Aego P5 this got a good write up in What Hi Fi, as anyone got one or heard it for themselves. Then there was the Mission Cinema m70 speaker package with the Yammaha RX-V430RDS. Or the Yammaha RX-V630RDS with Kef KHT2005 speaker system. Any other suggestions welcome, not to bothered if the amp dosn't have RDS so could probably go for a better amp.