Surround setup for movies played via plex

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  1. AurimasN

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    Hi, currently I have home media server setup with plex server and I am streaming movies to my TV.

    I would like to extend my setup so I can watch movies in surround sound, however I have very vague understanding of what I need.
    I'm thinking of getting AV receiver and 5.1 speakers, however it is not clear to me how do I wire things up, since plex is streaming directly to TV plex application, will my TV be able to pass trhough 5.1 to AV receiver? Is that at all possible?

    What features should I look for in an AV receiver / new TV if required.
     
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    What TV is it? It all depends upon the format the audio is encoded as, the audio the TV can handle and how you intend conveying it from the TV to the AV receiver?
     
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    It is very low-endish tv I will be replacing it sooner than later anyway, so I would like to know what to look for.
    Ideally I would prefer that my setup would be able to play dolby atmos, and I have no idea what options are there in terms of conveying audio from TV to AV receiver, only thing I heard of is HDMI ARC.
     
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    Atmos could be an issue if wanting to use older TVs andd if the Atmos metadata is packaged with TrueHD encoded audio. You'd need both a TV and AVR that is eARC enabled to be able to bitstream TrueHD from the TV to the AVR. Maybe look at an external media player or streaming box rather than using the media player or Plex app onboard a TV. You'd be more likely to find a player with the ability to bitstream TrueHD that you'd be likely to get a TV that would include this ability.
     
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    I have PS4 pro, would it be able to assist in this situation?
    In terms of finding right TV, is there some term to identify if it is able to bitstream TrueHD, or having eARC automatically allows that?
     
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    What kind of files are you wanting to play that include the Atmos audio? Maybe look at the Nvidia Shield as a possible player?
     
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    To be frank I’m not even aware which kind of files have atmos nor do I own any of this kind at the moment, but I would be looking into getting some that do, maybe blue ray disks in mkv containers?
     
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    I would assume that once you have an AVR, then all of your AV source will connect to the AVR and thus do the surround decoding including atmos if available. The connection to your doesn't matter so much then.

    Some people do have reasons to connect everything to the TV (usually because of an old AVR that wont pass through the latest video formats), but with a good modern AVR that support the required surround formats and can pass though the required video formats, then connect everything to the AVR.

    ARC (audio return channel) or eARC then only matters for watching video that is sourced by the TV itself as with ARC /eARC, the TV can send audio from live TV or one of its internal apps back to the AVR over the same HDMI connection that is used for video from the AVR when watching an AVR connected video source.

    For a TV that has no ARC capability at all, then perhaps it may have an optical output that can be connected to an AVR. Even many of the most basic TVs have had this for a long time and thus can be used with a modern AVR where the AVR is entirely responsible for all sound.
     
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    If wanting to play MKV rips then there are several options, but the PS4 wouldn't be one of them. I use a Mede8er MED1000X3D media player which will play MKV Blu-ray rips and bitstream both DTS:X and Atmos packaged with HD DTS-HD Master Audio and Dolby TrueHD, but doesn't do 4K video. I'm not even sure as to whether you'd still be able to get a Mede8er media player anywhere these days? Again, the Nvidia Shield is robably your best bet.
     
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    What's your server and is it local to where your avr well be?
     
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    It is ubuntu server and it is in another room from tv and avr.
     
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    Can I stream from plex media server directly to AVR?
     
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    No, the AV receiver has no inbuilt video player and its networking capabilities are limited to 2 channel audio.

    If wanting to play video files then you'd need to use a video player external to the AV receiver.
     
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    So I will need a dedicated "box" for plex client, any cheaper alternatives to nvidia shield? It costs as much as a gaming console (at least at my location), seems a bit pricey for single purpose of plex player.
     
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    Shame, best solution would've been to output straight from back of server into AVR.
     
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    Vero 4K plus is a bit cheaper.
     
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    Some TV's allow a PLex client app to run on them, but the TV youbuy will effect what audio you'd then be able to pay and output.

    Your best options would still be the Nvidia Shield or the aforementioned Vero box. These would run Plex and play MKV containers with either DTS:X or Atmos audio while bitstreaming this audio out to your AV receiver.

    Vero - OSMC

    SHIELD TV


    Strictly speaking, Plex isn't a requirement and all you need is a DLNA uPnP server and compliant client.
     
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    Thanks for advice, went with the vero option. Waiting for the delivery.
     
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    Me too!
     

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