Superbit, EX / ES?

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  1. magking

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    Is it DD EX and DTS ES on the superbit titles?
    I have a Denon AVR 3300 at the moment so i can't check. But i'm going to buy a AVC A11se so im interested i knowing how many titles i have that are ES/EX.
     
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    they're all 5.1 only.
     
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    None of these, with the current discs! "Super"bit just means they use a higher data rate for video and audio. Discs seem to have both DD5.1 and DTS5.1, but not the EX/ES variants. But the discs in the future may do.

    The list of Ex DVDs is available from http://www.dolby.com - the DTS ones used to be at http://www.dtsonline.com but seems to have gone for now, anyone else seen it??
     
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    All the superbit titles are 5.1 Dolby Digital or DTS.

    Nothing to stop you using the Surround Back speakers (EX/ES) though. On some films it works well, others not so much.

    Current DTS-Discrete 6.1 titles are

    The Haunting - R1
    Se7en - R1 & R2
    Gladiator - R1
    Chicken Run - R1
    Rush Hour 2 - R1

    There are other EX/ES (matrix) titles, do a search on this forum and you should come up with a list.
     
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    Ok, thanks.
    Just wanted it confirmed, because the "superbit paper thingy"(sorry, i'm from Norway) in the superbit dvd's sais : Enhanced DTS and DD, guess thats not ES/EX then.
     
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    magking,

    don't worry about DD EX & DTS ES.
    DTS ES 6.1 Discrete is the only true 6.1 channel.

    DOLBY DIGITAL SURROUND EX (aka THX SURROUND EX) & DTS ES 6.1 Matrix are 5.1 channel with matrixed surround back.

    As long as your setup has surround back speakers, you receiver/processor can do matrixed 6.1 from 5.1 sources.
    Thus, "DD EX" & "DTS ES 6.1 Matrix" titles doesn't mean much.
     
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    zcaps57,

    Hopefully I won't confuse this anymore, but there is a differences between a DTS5.1 discs and a DTS6.1ES Matrix disc, when using surround back speakers :

    DTS5.1 - Your receiver will "invent" the surround back information, based on the real information in the surround L and R rear channels.

    DTS6.1ES Matrix - The surround back information is actually on the disc, mixed in (or matrixed in!) the surround L and R rear channels. Here the receiver is not creating anything, just decoding the extra information.
     
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    Correct.
    still matrix is matrix. another words, extracted delay information from SR & SL.
     

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