superbit dvds

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  1. john R1

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    has anyone else got a copy of panic room reg 3 superbit, as i was not impressed with the quality, no better than many normal dvds that i have tried, interested in your replys
     
  2. Ian J

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    I have Panic Room region 1 superbit. It was an unusual film to produce in superbit format but the picture and sound were both superb.

    Decent superbit comes into it's own on screens bigger than the standard 32" where one might struggle to notice much difference between superbit and a well mastered vanilla DVD
     
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    On first impressions, Blade 2 seemed to have a better picture than Panic Room. Having said that, Panic Room still looked very good.
     
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    I have the R3 Panic room, also not impressed. The colours and detail was good but there's alot of digital noise.
     
  5. dts_boy

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    Ian J - did you get it as there is a dts sound track on there?
     
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    No he bought it because I told him Jet Li was in it.
     
  7. the_pauley

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    The idea behind superbit DVDs is that by leaving off all the extras you allow a higher bit rate to be devoted to the sound and video - more Mega-Bytes Per Second for your money - theoretically giving a better quality disc.

    Recent tests conducted by Total DVD confirm that the titles released so far in Columbia/Tristar's superbit range do exhibit a higher bit rate than their vanilla counterparts. For example:

    (Superbit rate listed first, followed by standard bitrate)

    Crouching Tiger... 7.16 MB/Sec - 5.14 MB/Sec
    Godzilla 7.11 MB/Sec - 5.77 MB/Sec

    All well and good. However...

    The test compared the bit rates of these titles to two non-superbit titles from other distributors, namely the 2 disc versions of 'Moulin Rouge' and 'Se7en', both of which are packed with extras, boast DD and DTS soundtracks, interactive elements and audio commentaries. The bit rates on these two discs were, respectively, 7.90 and 7.89 MB/Sec, higher than all but two of Columbia/Tristar's entire superbit catalogue.

    With these results, Columbia/Tristar's superbit collection seems nothing more than reissues of discs that could have been mastered to a higher standard on their original releases, but at inflated prices and devoid of the extras that Fox and EV seem quite capable of offering while maintaining comparable audio and video quality.

    Anyone smell a marketing exercise?
     
  8. Geezer

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    Quite possibly, although its nothing new really is it, with the amount of special editions, directors cut etc. we get its sometimes quite difficult to know which version to go for.
     
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    You'll get my Fifth Element Superbit when you pry it from my cold dead fingers. It makes all other versions of the movie (which is highly regarded as reference discs) pale in comparison. You'll have to fight me for my Desperado Superbit too.

    If I want to watch extras i'll rent.

    I like Superbit

    Kenneth
     
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    I hope nobody who likes extras takes that onboard as the way to see them ;)
     
  11. Kenneth.Hoiland

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    nope, lets hope it is understood by all that i prefer sound and picture to be at their best. extras will be watched once, commentaries will never be listened to and so on.
    I apprechiate a set like the new LOTR, but would rather have the extended movie over two discs with only a DTS ES 6.1 track and max bitrate over the commentaries and two discs of extras in the four disc set. Probably would have been cheaper too

    But thats just me

    Kenneth
     
  12. the_pauley

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    You miss the point of my original posting.

    No one is disagreeing that the 'Superbit' versions of 'Fifth Element' and 'Desperado' are superior to the standard versions - they are without doubt, measurably better.

    The gripe is, that other companies have managed to produce discs with equivalent or superior bitrates and include all the extras.

    Some re-releases of existing titles from these companies have been re-mastered with superior sound and vision to the originals, but the companies concerned don't give them a fancy label like 'Superbit', strip them of extras and charge a hefty premium for the privilege.

    And incidentally, Peter Jackson's stated reason for splitting the LOTR Extended Edition over two discs is to maximize the bit rate for optimum quality. Notice however that he isn't labelling it as 'Superbit' or some other such snazzy marketing man's moniker, and you're getting four discs for round about the £25 mark - roughly the price of one extras-free 'Superbit' title.
     

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