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Superbit dvd's

Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by gargoyle, Oct 5, 2001.

  1. gargoyle

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    Having heard that certain films are to be released in superbit,can anyone tell me if these new dvd's offer significant improvement over standard dvd's as I need to know if it worth upgrading my copies of Airforce One and Blade.
     
  2. Reiner

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    Don't take this the wrong way, but if you look a bit closer you will find some threads about that already below which probably answers your question.

    I would say the answer has a tendency to "No" ... ;)
     
  3. Confucius

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    Just to add that Blade will never be a Superbit disc, it's a New Line release (R1).
     
  4. Jeff

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  5. gargoyle

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    Jeff - thanks for the info - proved very valuable. ;)
     
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    I have ordered the Superbit CTHD just to have a look. It was pretty chaep from Play anyway.
     
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    I recieved Fith Element superbit and i admit it is the best picture i have to date, but have one really annoying problem! As I get to the change in layer, the thing freezes! I have to stop the film and eventually i manage to get it started again after the event and rewind! Anyone else get that sort of thing or is it just me?

    Ad
     
  9. Jeff

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    It uses a special layer change method that is supposed to make the change near unvisible. I guess the technique doesn't work on your DVD player.

    Jeff

    [ 11-10-2001: Message edited by: Jeff ]
     
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    Are superbit disks available in R2 and R1?
    Thanks.
     
  11. Jeff

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    Just R1 I think, at least so far.

    Jeff
     
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    I think all Superbits DVD's are Region 0 meaning they can play on any DVD player.
     
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    "I think all Superbits DVD's are Region 0 meaning they can play on any DVD player."

    ...well, yes, but remember that, since these discs are basically made in/for R1 they will inevitably be coded for NTSC display, not PAL ... this may pose a problem for those DVD enthousiasts whose PAL display only allows them to watch R1 (or R0/Hong Kong, or R2/Japan) discs in black-and-white...

    . . . :eek: . . .

    [ 12-10-2001: Message edited by: European ]
     
  14. johnson

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    I'm sorry...What I meant to ask was can you get them in pal rather than ntsc?
    Surely the pal disk with 625 line would be better?
    Thanks
     
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    I'd be amazed if the superbits were R0 - I can understand R1 and R2 (as some of the early dts releases were)so they can play back in Japan, but R0?? surely not
     
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    Thats an issue with the player not the discs. Seeing as most sub 200quid players support RGB or switchable colour frequency or both its not really much of a concern these days.

    If you are concerned enough about quality to desire superbit discs ( personally I think its a load of old tosh) then I'd assume you'd already have a player that had an RGB output.
     
  17. Jon Weaver

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    Apparantly, what I read was Sony have anticipated a relativly small world wide demand for these disks, so decided to encode them as R0.

    However, as already mentioned above, they seem to have forgotted about PAL and NTSC.

    Whats more embaracing for them is that they have just discovered that the PAL PS2 won't play NTSC.. As these are R0, the PS2 can now play them, but as they are NTSC it only outputs in B&W.

    They are heavily pushing the PS2 for DVD playback and will also be pushing Super-Bit too, but it seems that both products aren't compatable.

    Bummer!
     
  18. alanrob

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    I can confirm that Superbit DVD's are infact region 1 (or so they say on the box).
    I've just got Air Force One in and I'll be watching it later.

    I'll let you all know how I get on and what I think about Superbit l8r.
     
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    The British (and I assume European) PS2 was designed from the start to output NTSC as 'pure' NTSC, which makes it a display problem, not a player problem (in this inst.)

    I have tested it's NTSC output and it does work.

    [ 12-10-2001: Message edited by: Confucius ]
     
  20. Ono

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    WOW.

    Just watched the Superbit CTHD and was stunned by the sound and picture quality!


    Would I buy anymore Superbits of discs I already own? NO.

    Would I buy superbits in place of discs with extras? NO.


    It was just nice to see DVD quality at its best and will be used as my demo disc. :)
     
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    here is the region coding on the current R1 Superbits

    Air Force One is coded for the R1 only

    Fifth Element is coded for R1, R3 and R4

    CTHD is coded for R1, R3 and R4

    Desperado is coded for R1, R3 and R4

    Johnny Mnemonic is coded for R1 and R3
     
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    It's a big thumb up for Superbit DVD's.
    The picture and sound quailty is breath taking.
    I doubt DVD will get any better than this.

    Don't think I'd replace every DVD in my collection (if they were released as Superbit), but there would be some - The Matrix being one example.

    Can't wait to see The 5th Element now...
     
  23. Stuart Wright

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    Grrrrr. Don't you realise that if the Superbit DVDs sell well, that will be affirming the assertion by Columbia that we're not interested in extras?
    We should not buy Superbit DVDs. Absolutely not if we've already got the film once. That's just pandering to Columbias marketing ploy to part fools and their money.
    We should be getting what we deserve - and that is ALL DVDs with Superbit quality but with extras on a second disc.
    Yes I want the best quality discs.
    But does nobody else forsee the demise of extras on DVDs if the Superbit range prove popular?
     
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    well that is your choice.

    If I want to buy Superbit or any other dvd's with or without extras that is my choice.
     
  25. Stuart Wright

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    >>>point>>> whoosh

    head

    :rolleyes:
     
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    they're gonna try to rip you off any way they can, so you may see your dream of double disc superbit dvd's with an extras disc. And of course a price rise, so everyone has to pay the premium, whether they want it or not. Thats assuming the superbit ones are popular.

    as a combination is not available currently, surely you should be supporting the superior quality transfer of the film, which is what you actually paid for.
     
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    I would always forgo extras for improved picture quality (superbit or not), but the fact remains we should get both. Releases like Unbreakable, Gladiator, Fight club etc. will hopefully be the new standard. One disc dedicated to the movie, and extras on the other, for the price of £17.99 or thereabouts. I live in hope :)

    Cheers Rob.
     
  28. Stuart Wright

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    Thanks, Rob - I'm glad someone see's my point.
    Re paying a premium for a 'superbit' quality dvd including a second disc for extras - well surely that would be cheaper than paying for a 'low res' version with extras PLUS the superbit DVD?
    As consumers, we should be givent he option of having the highest quality PLUS the extras.
    And indeed some releases have given us that.
     
  29. Ono

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    I only bought it to see what the fuss was about Stuart.


    Not gonna buy anymore. Promise. :D
     
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    I thought THX certified DVD's offered the best in picture and sound quality anyway. What we have have now is competition in standards. What would be interesting is to see is two of the same film, one in Superbit and the other in THX and compare the two. This probably will never happen but I think were making a big deal of SuperBit because its new but give it a few months and nobody will raise an eyebrow, a bit like THX now.
     

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