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  1. steve1

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    not sure if you can still buy them now. but i use to buy a lot of superbit dvd.i do recall they were much better picture than sd dvd.any way was wondering how they would compare now.to hd/ blueray
     
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    superbit was a brand-name and the picture quality on the discs was no better than SD DVD. In fact, the superbit Region 1 Panic Room was worse.
     
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    I'm sure the superbit dvd's were a lot less compressed than the standard dvd and most of them were loads better than their normal dvd counter-part.
     
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    I've got several superbits, although mostly region 1s.
    I'd say thery're better than standard SD dvd, it's not a night & day difference, there is a difference imo.... Plus you got DTS as standard....:thumbsup:
     
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    Possibly a noticeable improvement on projectors and 100" screens but on 32" - 40" screen impossible to detect any difference.
     
  7. steve1

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    i thought id mention superbit as i had hollow man on superbit looked great on my old denon dvd player
     
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    put fifth element on the other day, and straight away i noticed how clean and sharp the image looked compared to alot of recent releases.
     
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    IMHO it was a marketing scam, the bitrate was no better that normal SD discs. Play it on a PC and check....
     
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    Bit rate and compression are not clear cut indicators of quality. The quality and the care taken in the transfer, and the quality of the original film that it's transferred from, and even the content of the film itself, are all as important when it comes to creating a superior DVD.

    There are quite a few examples where high bit rates still result in very mediocre DVDs. Having said that, Superbit discs can generally be said to be of at least good quality. Which isn't to say that there aren't plenty of non-superbit DVDs that are at least as good, if not better. So, as with many things, mostly marketing bull plus a grain or two of truth.

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    just wanted to say superbit dvd was a higher bitrate than sd. you always got a dts soundtrack. and the dvd sleeve looked great as well.
     
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    Lol, this quote, if it were taken literally, would be the end of HD transfers. They are done in the same way.. so how can you say that Superbit DVD will not be superior if the bitrate is higher?
     
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    :rolleyes:

    Not that old chestnut again!

    Click here.
     
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    Even though Superbit was never better than a standard DVD, it was a good idea that should have been put into production properly by someone. If Moulin Rouge can get more information out of a film, then so can a Superbit idea, without the extras of course, which seem to go against the idea.
     
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    It was. By Paramount, Warner, Universal, Fox, Disney, etc, etc. It's called DVD.
     
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    So.. why did you say that Moulin Rouge was better quality then? That was also a DVD.....
     
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    No it wouldn't. HD is in no way simply a matter of higher bitrates.

    No they're not.

    Because it's true. If you knew anything about the technical side of DVD mastering then you'd know that and wouldn't make such strange, ill informed comments.

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    Speak for yourself. I could tell Superbits apart on my previous TV, a 32", let alone my current display (43"). I bought a fair few too, not because of the hype aimed at the ill-informed (like the poor souls who still seem to think that they're not standard DVDs) but because they were better than what Sony dished up first time around.
     
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    I was thinking that Bits were Pixels, and that a bitrate was a frequency at which you would send these pixels to a screen, and that HD would require a high frequency, and more pixels, and that a High Bitrate DVD would be less compacted than low bitrate, and the more pixels you can send to a screen without compression, the more accurate transition from Master to transfer. I don't know.. just guessing from being a graphic artist.
     
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    True. The only Superbit disc i have that i'm actually impressed with is Desperado. Other than that, dts is their only benefit.
     
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    :confused:

    Yes, made by Fox. Not a Superbit release. Which was my point.
     
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    Why can't you see that your point also reflects that higher bitrates means better picture? So if a company remade movies with higher bitrates they would look better. You think that anyone would not call this a DVD? You think that people would not buy movies with improved quality?

    I just bought Terminator Ultimate Edition.. Enhanced Digital Transfer. do you not think there is a market for improved picture DVD's?

    So I said.. "Why doesn't someone actually do what Superbit suggests?" and you reply.. "They are called DVD's."... well.. that is a strange reply, being as you class all DVD's as a single quality picture, yet make an entire thread about the pictures all being different.
     
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    Don't know if you've ever bought re-mastered DVDs but they tend to be better quality then the DVD on its first release. That's all superbits were, remastered DVDs, but Sony tried to fool the public into thinking their discs were higher quality than their rivals, and then withdrew the brand name when it was clear that only a few people were taken in by this hogwash.
     
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    Nowhere, either here or on the thread linked to, have I stated anything so ridiculous as that I "...class all DVD's as a single quality picture..."

    Did you bother to read what was in the link?
     
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    I have still yet to watch my Das Boot 2disc Superbit - not sure why I bought it, perhaps for the novelty of having to change DVD half way through the moive :eek:

    I also have Spiderman 1 and 2 on superbit, but never compared to other verisons.

    I did like the idea behind superbit i.e. get rid of the extras and annoying animated menus, and use the extra space for movie/sound, but if the mastering wasn't good in the first place then it doesn't really matter, whether it was on Superbit or "normal" DVD.

    I am sure there are examples of better and worse Superbits vs DVD - but it is important to remember that Superbit was just a brand using the normal DVD format - no wizardry involved.
     
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    Well.. any hope for them bringing them back is pointless anyway with HD now available. Plus, most of my films are good quality anyway. So there's no point in discussing the matter further.
     
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    How about Bluray Superbit ;)
     
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    Well... House Of Wax needs remastering already.. It's pretty bad really, how they can make such poor quality HD movies. I'm sure that I've got DVD's that are better Quality than House Of Wax.
     
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    and so the cycle continues - no doubt a lot of HD discs are not done at their absolute best - and the "remastered-directors cut-special edition-superbit(tm)" version get released.
     

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