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Qactuar

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Did you all watch this before me?! I thought it was on at 11 but hey ho ..! Brilliant announcement and 2018...
 

everett_psycho

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I suspected smash when they went in to another splatoon video, there wasn't much more they could add and I can't think of any other cross franchise game we are due, Phys the inklings have never been in smash, don't they usually announce it with some random be character? I seem to remember the solid snake reveal for one of them.

But great reveal, i think everyone was wishful but thought they were being optimistic with it. Huge bombshell to get everyone talking with no details and like that there's a huge must have title coming this year along with what really seems to be another ridiculous amount of games between now and then.
 

prezzy

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Not a fan of Smash Bros - I don't really get it at all / find it boring.
 

Daft Ada

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I had an Inkling (!) that last trailer was Smash related as soon as it came on screen. Great way to reveal the game and get people talking. I bet we'll get another teaser in the next Direct followed by a full reveal at E3. Smash 4 game engine with extra characters and a combo of Wii U and 3DS stages from the last games. I wouldn't be surprised if they take the Splatoon/Arms route and launch early with less content and then release characters and stages steadily over the next year.
 

everett_psycho

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I had an Inkling (!) that last trailer was Smash related as soon as it came on screen. Great way to reveal the game and get people talking. I bet we'll get another teaser in the next Direct followed by a full reveal at E3. Smash 4 game engine with extra characters and a combo of Wii U and 3DS stages from the last games. I wouldn't be surprised if they take the Splatoon/Arms route and launch early with less content and then release characters and stages steadily over the next year.
I actually quite like Nintendo going this route. Usually I'm not a fan but generally their games hold up really well. I think the secret is they polish the hell out of the core game then stick more stages and characters in later but the mechanics are still spot on from the released version, usually they offer more for free initially too, whereas a lot of other companies use patches as a way to ship unfinished work and the content updates often end up fixing problems too. The result is we get a great game earlier and a stream of content to follow instead of waiting months extra just for some levels and characters to be added in.
 

zantarous

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I actually quite like Nintendo going this route. Usually I'm not a fan but generally their games hold up really well. I think the secret is they polish the hell out of the core game then stick more stages and characters in later but the mechanics are still spot on from the released version, usually they offer more for free initially too, whereas a lot of other companies use patches as a way to ship unfinished work and the content updates often end up fixing problems too. The result is we get a great game earlier and a stream of content to follow instead of waiting months extra just for some levels and characters to be added in.
My biggest issue with this is that the game you buy in a cart will, year's from now when the servers are all shut down, still be the initial game without all the additional content.
 

everett_psycho

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My biggest issue with this is that the game you buy in a cart will, year's from now when the servers are all shut down, still be the initial game without all the additional content.
I'd love the carts to be capable of storing the updates directly instead of on the switch itself, just a small section of the memory would need to be writable to allow it. Unfortunately I bet someone would find a way to abuse such a thing of try managed it.
 

zantarous

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I'd love the carts to be capable of storing the updates directly instead of on the switch itself, just a small section of the memory would need to be writable to allow it. Unfortunately I bet someone would find a way to abuse such a thing of try managed it.
That's a great idea never thought that. Or at least make the download available to back up on a USB stick. But it's Ninty no damn chance.
 

Qactuar

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I think it will be a new game.

It might use an existing engine upgraded etc, but I think they will be doing something new - else they would have probably had footage and given it a name. If they withhold the name and later reveal a port, I think it will leave a sour taste.

Maybe, anyway.

New characters and new Link, maybe new Mario options, Inklings...not to mention the series director has said he's been working on it for some time now (where a port could have easily been outsourced).

Here's hoping!
 

Daft Ada

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My biggest issue with this is that the game you buy in a cart will, year's from now when the servers are all shut down, still be the initial game without all the additional content.
You can update a game using another Switch if that has a later version. I used it last November to update Arms using a mates Switch while we were miles from the nearest wifi signal.
 

Daft Ada

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What I am specifically getting at is, say in 15 years time if I want to fire up SSB, so I buy a secondhand Switch and SSB I am only able to play the base game there will be no way to update the game to get all the stuff that was later added.
Trump'll set off a nuke in two years time so I wouldn't worry about it :rotfl:
 

cmdrmarc

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What I am specifically getting at is, say in 15 years time if I want to fire up SSB, so I buy a secondhand Switch and SSB I am only able to play the base game there will be no way to update the game to get all the stuff that was later added.
If that's your main issue in 15 years time you'll be doing pretty well ;)

In all seriousness, I do completely agree with what you're saying. Day 1 patches and DLC in general are seriously affecting the value of collecting modern games.
 

everett_psycho

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If that's your main issue in 15 years time you'll be doing pretty well ;)

In all seriousness, I do completely agree with what you're saying. Day 1 patches and DLC in general are seriously affecting the value of collecting modern games.
Heaven forbid someone gets something like assassin's creed where characters disappeared entirely in the launch version. I think the route they will end up having to take is either leaving a skeletal set of servers on for to gamers or finding a way to side load a patch from an SD card and allowing others to host the official patches. I'm not sure if retro gaming is big enough for the former and I highly doubt they'd show the latter. I do think Nintendo missed a trick allowing for patches on the carts though, move to another switch and the cart is patched not just your switches version. Alternatively they can just keep doing backwards compatibility so you never need a switch and will always have what you need, this is fine as long as they stick with arm CPUs and a common architecture, it's not like theres ever a change is architecture after all.
 

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