MartinCo
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Originally posted by Amelia
Martin, Boy I though buying a PJ was the hard part, I didn't think the DVD player would also become so complicated. The worse part is once I pick one, I also need it to be able to Play SVCD as most of my home videos are on SVCD.
As far as the Probs with the Nintaus go, I did have a read through a number of posts and from what I can tell, they were mainly when the unit had just come out. But then again who knows, with my luck I will get one with the old Firmware or something.
yep... it is a little complicated if you want every feature... for you pal progressive is a big plus since you use R4s almost exclusively. I buy a mixture of DVDs (70:30 biased to R1 maybe) so its not as important to me but still a nice thing to have..
I'm in mid decision mode myself.. got a laptop that is fine for DVDs, but also purchased a Denon 2800 5-6 months ago.. just about to be upgraded to a mkII free of charge.
both will do progressive scan in some way, 480p (ntsc ps) & 625p (pal ps) off the Denon, 480p & 720p from the laptop...(higher resolution again).
Gordon, Thanks for the info. The problem I am having is none of the spec sheets I have on DVD players even mention pulldown detection How will I know if a Player does 2:2 pulldown detection?
Can you suggest any models?
Amelia... a bit of background info... the bits I think I understand.
the different pulldowns are for progressively scanning film and video - they are recorded at different frames rates on the disc (24 or 30 frames) so have to be re-constructed in different ways.
progressive scan basically means the image is non-interlaced.
traditional video on your TV is interlaced so flickery on big screens... (which is why things like 100hz were created).
so progressive scan tries to stitch two interlaced frames together to make 1 non-interlaced frame. thats why the image is more solid, detailed, and has less/no scanlines.
VGA on your PC is non-interlaced by default.. which is why people are using PCs to run projectors... they have to progressively scan the DVD to get it onto your monitor and at higher resolutions that a standalone dvd player can do.
anyway, look at the details on the nintaus and you will see a link to sage with the all-important quote:-
"It also features film mode for proper handling of 3:2 and 2:2 pulldown as well as bad edit detection/correction, technologies invented and patented by Faroudja Laboratories."
so the nintaus using the faroudja chip should be okay.
equally a silicon images (SIL) chipset based player like the Denons and Arcam have both a 3:2 and 2:2 mode...
there are probably others but it not clear if they have a 2:2 mode...(tosh, pioneer etc). think the hkardon dvd 25 has a 2:2 mode but it really varies from chipset and manufacturer.
have a read of http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_7_4/dvd-benchmark-part-5-progressive-10-2000.html for more info.
not related to the pal progressive issue but should give you some more background about the things Gordon referred to, and scenes to demo to see faults on.