Also. Very good point on going one then adding rather than splitting the budget for two lesser subs. Never thought of it that way.
I would guess measure each sub, time align them, present them to Audyssey to EQ, then adjust EQ to taste and correct the alignment and integration.I already have a 2x4 HD for BEQ. What did he do?
It's the way I've basically built my entire HT system - in stages. Having said that I did buy my 2 subs together. Was a deal too good to refuse!Also. Very good point on going one then adding rather than splitting the budget for two lesser subs. Never thought of it that way.
Useful chart that!This chart shows the Audioholics' measured output of four of the subs that have been mentioned above so you can see what extra £££ buys you in terms of SPL.
I know, it's a real shame. I can only presume that BK don't want to publish this type of data, hopefully not out of fear of comparison.Useful chart that!
Just a shame no one's meassured Monoliths on offer from BK in similar fashion As the BK's really do offer fab value for money, but there's no data, showing how they perform against the SVS's et ell.
Well Audioholics seem to think it's valuable and go to a lot of trouble to publish their testing methodology in great detail. Maybe Tom V should set them straight on it.PSA don't publish their data either, and I'm pretty sure that's not out of fear.
Tom V's been very clear about the limited usefulness of this data. It's missing a lot of important information like distortion to be truly useful. He's been quite vocal that it's easy to make a sub that excels at these tests but it doesn't really translate to in-room performance.
It's ok as a rough reference and to weed out the very poor performers.
I'm pretty OK with Audyssey XT32 on my single sub but the poster also "seems" to have a single sub which is why I am interested.I would guess measure each sub, time align them, present them to Audyssey to EQ, then adjust EQ to taste and correct the alignment and integration.
With a single sub there's less you can do but you can still improve on integration and apply better EQ.
I agree that it's useful as a baseline for comparison, but I wouldn't buy a sub based on those figures alone.Well Audioholics seem to think it's valuable and go to a lot of trouble to publish their testing methodology in great detail. Maybe Tom V should set them straight on it.
This article and explains our new subwoofer testing procedure and the various equipment & software used. The results will be condensed & summarized in a consistent manner for each product tested Page 13www.audioholics.com
Audyssey time alignment can usually be improved, even with a single sub.I'm pretty OK with Audyssey XT32 on my single sub but the poster also "seems" to have a single sub which is why I am interested.
Before Tenet I might have considered getting the app. I'm less inclined to after hearing Tenet. It made my little system sound like a Cineworld, minus the thump in the chest. That's probably the only thing missing and I'm not sure I know enough about how to use the app and certainly not enough about the mindsp to fix that.Audyssey time alignment can usually be improved, even with a single sub.
If you don't have the app then the minidsp gives you better control over the target curve as well.
Umik is gone but no worries, I might pick up the Audyssey app, remove midrange comp and see how it goes from there.Chest slam is in the 50-100Hz region, so right through the crossover (usually). That makes time alignment and integration critical.
If you want to experiment, grab an umik-1 and REW. There's plenty of help in the REW thread and there's an umik in the classifieds. You could at least measure and see what's what. From that I'll be able to tell you if you can improve the integration and chest slam.
Evening all, I'm hoping for a bit of advice.
As with most home set ups, I seem to have found myself slowly upgrading bits as and when I can afford it. Screen, speakers, amp etc. I'm now at the point where I think I need to upgrade my subwoofer. My current set up is -
Denon X3700H AVR
Dali oberon 5s
Dali Zensor surrounds
Dali Alteco atmos
Cambridge Audio Sx120 Subwoofer. Link below
Richer Sounds exclusive model. Gimmick-free and true to their 'sound first' philosophy, the Cambridge Audio SX120 takes sound to a lower dimension.www.richersounds.com
I've done a lot of reading, probably too much. And seem to have got myself confused. My subwoofer to me seems fairly adequate but I guess I don't know what I'm missing. It was bought as a cheap starter sub.
Would adding another Sx120 be worthwhile? Or should I look to change it to something like an SVS pb-1000 or even 2000? (PB seems better for films?)
Will I notice much of a change in a subwoofer swap? Daft question maybe, but at £700 it is a big outlay.
My room is 7.5m x 4.5x
Thanks for any help
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how big is ur c9?I do prefer sealed over ported but I haven't had a chance to get pb4000 in my larger room. But in the smaller one, I didn't rate my pc ultra 13 for music, sbu13 was better. That's with antimode.
Also with smaller sub they can fit in easier, th sbu13 fits just below my c9. If I had the pb4000 I'd need to raise my TV several inches, the TV screen may be bit too high.
A high end sealed sub should provide enough output and low end, I've had my single sbu13 pretty loud and several dB hit and it copes fine. Maybe at higher than reference and running hot it may distort but that's not really normal use.
Dual PSA ps1512 wil be more than enough, and two sealed will take up less floor and height space than two porters. Ie dual monoprice 15" are massive.
I'm single and my home cinema/living and dining (first two priority) has priority but I wouldn't want two filing cabinet dominating the space...maybe if room was 10m X 5m as bigger sub doesn't look over the top and need bigger sub in a bigger room...my sw-150 looks tiny in my big bedroom 25m2 I've seen that same sub in a box room and it looks much bigger in that room