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Subwoofer Recommendations please

Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by Greg Hook, Aug 14, 2004.

  1. Greg Hook

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    Hi

    Currently have a Paradigm PDR-10 sub, which was one of the first things I bought for my system, but lately I feel its the weak link in the setup.

    My main items are Denon 3802 amp and 2900 DVD player.

    I don't want to spend the earth, perhaps up to £250? The PDR-10 is black and doesn't fit well with my other furniture, so ideally a maple or beech coloured one would go well.

    Also it wants to be no bigger than 380 x 380 x 380.

    Thanks for any help
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  2. Ian J

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    The current budget sub to beat is the Mordaunt Short MS309 which is available in a light colour but not only do I not know the size but I don't speak millimetres anyway. Available from at least one forum sponsor at £30 below your budget
     
  3. Greg Hook

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    Excellent, thanks Ian.

    The MS309 is 370x370x370 so is a perfect fit. Good maple colour too.

    Cheers
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    MS309 is definitely the one to go for. We reviewed it in the budget sub test if you want some more info.
     
  5. Greg Hook

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    yes, that would be helpful, thanks.
     
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    to me the MS309 is a good sub. But i would never stick a sub as cheap as that on the end of the DVD and AMP you have. You may aswell have cheaper components as your not going to get the best from them.
     
  8. Greg Hook

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    To be honest I know nothing about subwoofers, what would you recommend to go with my kit?
     
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    I don't know what other kit you have but within the budget you specified then the MS309 is the one to go and unless you can double your budget I think it would be worth considering anyway.

    In this part of the price range subs tend to get larger to gain their performance rather than changing the internals, as you go from ~£500 upwards they start to get smaller again before getting absolutely huge around the £1000 mark. (Prepares for flaming at the substantial generalisation)

    It all depends on your priorities, the BK XLS200 that I have is an absolute bargain at £280, is quite a bit smaller than the PDR10 (which I also have sitting in my "redundant and need to sell" pile) and performs at least as well as the MS309 but it only comes in black and silver. If you're prepared to go 2nd hand then some of the new B&W models are very highly rated and would fit your aesthetic criteria but not your financial one. Room size would be helpful to know too.
     
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    Which is the 'flaming' smiley? :devil:

    Judging by your last post and a glance at your sig I should forget the science career and just become a creative writer. :D

    Only kidding. :p

    Nimby ;)
     
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    :laugh: Did much better at science for GCSE than English (Double A* for Science as opposed to just an A in English) and it followed on from there. It's bloody hard but I wouldn't want to do any other subject (apart from maybe electrical or mechanical engineering). Physics is great :)

    You must see my point, the very budget end has the likes of the Powercubes and Eltaxes which are quite small, then you head up to PDR10, MS309 size at around £300 (new). Next comes those with the 12" or 15" driver such as the Velodyne CHT series, the MS909, the SVS models and to a lesser extent the Servo 15 around the £500 mark. They then start shrinking with the likes of the Velo DD series and the B&W range which of then get significantly larger as the price increases. Of course there are exceptions but this is largely how I view the market at the moment.
     
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    All perfectly good advice and information. :)

    Though I'm not sure where SVS comes into your picture. :confused:

    They can be big and cheap. :smashin:

    And big and expensive. :clap:

    I was only kidding you because you (more or less) asked to be flamed. :devil:

    Regards
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    :laugh: I know, I think the main point is that the emphasis before deciding has to be budget and then what size you want. From there it should be an easy decision.

    Unfortunately SVS didn't weigh in cheap enough for me and them not having a "small" option makes them completely impractical for me. Don't forget models like the Velo SPL series too which do start quite small and (comparatively) affordable.

    If it weren't for the "no black" stipulation though I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the BK. As it is, the MS309 is the one to go for unless the budget (and maybe dimensions) can be stretched :)

    EDIT: Just noticed the post by Dan. Wait for the BK :thumbsup:
     
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    If you can tell Greg where to buy Velo SPL subs within his budget of £250 I will have a couple too

    AV-Sales / Kent Home Cinema are very competitive on pricing for forum members but I think that's pushing it a bit too far :D
     
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    Thanks for the replies, my budget of £250 could change, but bit brassic at the moment as I only bought the 2900 last month.

    I like the look of the MS309 and can get it for £229, but just want to make sure it won't be wasted with the kit I have. Remember I have a PDR-10 at the moment, so should the MS309 give me a huge improvement??

    Greg
     
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    MS309 is a big jump from the PDR10 and the BK is a smaller jump up from that with the benefit of being smaller too (although £50 more expensive). Possibly helpfully, they were all compared in the thread linked to earlier in this one.
     
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    Yes it was mentioned to me when I picked my BK up that it would be available in a range of colours, but no dates given. I thought I'd mentioned it in my upgrade advice thread when I bought the BK, but just checked and I forgot to mention about the new colours :oops: obviously too excited with getting the BK ;)
     

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