Sub upgrade advice.

mij

Well-known Member
Hi, I have one of the first REL Quakes and want to upgrade the bass whilst keeping it's small size (can go a bit bigger, but not too much).

I use the Rel Quake with a set of KEF KHT2005.2 speakers and a Marantz SR5500 receiver which sounds nice with music but seems to lack something with movies.

What should I be looking at?

Thanks
Jim
 

badbob

Banned
Budget? Velodyne and Sunfire product a few small sealed box subs, but they're not cheap.

sounds nice with music but seems to lack something with movies.
I would say the reverse, I've heard Kef Eggs and they're lacking for music since they're satellites. If it's lacking bass, then Quake which isn't that great.
 

mij

Well-known Member
Budget? Velodyne and Sunfire product a few small sealed box subs, but they're not cheap.



I would say the reverse, I've heard Kef Eggs and they're lacking for music since they're satellites. If it's lacking bass, then Quake which isn't that great.
I don't have a budget but cannot go much larger with the sub.
 

badbob

Banned
Sunfire True Signature is £2500. I think it's a sealed box 12", so something like 13/14" cubed.

No way you can get a Rel Quake sized sub with world class bass.
 

mij

Well-known Member
Sunfire True Signature is £2500. I think it's a sealed box 12", so something like 13/14" cubed.

No way you can get a Rel Quake sized sub with world class bass.
Thanks. Never heard of Sunfire, they have smaller subs than the Quake, Will have to find somewhere to demo.

BTW, I am not after or expect to get world class bass with a sub this small. I am just hoping that small subs have improved since I got the Quake, hopefully to a level that they can deliver good quality controlled bass.

Any others I should demo?
 

Conrad.

Well-known Member
Thanks. Never heard of Sunfire, they have smaller subs than the Quake, Will have to find somewhere to demo.

BTW, I am not after or expect to get world class bass with a sub this small. I am just hoping that small subs have improved since I got the Quake, hopefully to a level that they can deliver good quality controlled bass.

Any others I should demo?
The velodyne DD range are excellent. I've got a DD10 and I'm getting down well below 18Hz at over 80db in room without any noticable distortion. If I shut the door it's closer to 15Hz.

All that from a box that's about 11" square.

If you can afford a 12", even better. The smaller ones (they do a 15 and 18 as well) don't come up for sale that often, not that I've seen.
 

mij

Well-known Member
I have just been reading about the SVS 25-31PCi and am going to measure up to see if it will fit.

Are there any others I should be looking at



I have had a measure and I can fit either of these "The SB12 Plus & the SVS 25-31PCi" does anyone know where I can demo both?
 

mij

Well-known Member
Probably been asked a thousand times already :rolleyes:

On a scale of 1-10, how much better will either of the above SVS subs be than the Rel Quake?
 

Andywilliams

Active Member
I have had a measure and I can fit either of these "The SB12 Plus & the SVS 25-31PCi" does anyone know where I can demo both?
You can demo the above subs at http://www.av-sales.com/ they used to stock sunfire and velodyne so quite a choice.You do have to make an appointment though to demo.
Andy.
PS the rel quake would be annihilated by the above subs no contest.
 

badbob

Banned
Probably been asked a thousand times already :rolleyes:

On a scale of 1-10, how much better will either of the above SVS subs be than the Rel Quake?
Erm tubes are slightly bigger than Rel Quakes :rotfl: I've heard a Rel Quake, it's not very good. I'd give Quake 2 out of 10. Since I haven't heard a better sub than PC Plus or PC Ultra I couldn't rate them out of 10. But way way higher than the Quake.

I have a PC Ultra 13 and SB12+ If you want reference HT levels get the cylinders or larger ported. The SB12+ is fine for smaller rooms or music systems.
 

Member 96948

Distinguished Member
I have just been reading about the SVS 25-31PCi and am going to measure up to see if it will fit.

Are there any others I should be looking at
Frankly, if you can accommodate a 13-14" cube there isn't much that won't better a Quake including a few for considerably less money than a new Quake.

Russell
 

mij

Well-known Member
Well it appears that I am going to be in for a treat.

It will be interesting to see how bad the Quake is in comparison.

Erm tubes are slightly bigger than Rel Quakes :rotfl: I've heard a Rel Quake, it's not very good. I'd give Quake 2 out of 10. Since I haven't heard a better sub than PC Plus or PC Ultra I couldn't rate them out of 10. But way way higher than the Quake.

I have a PC Ultra 13 and SB12+ If you want reference HT levels get the cylinders or larger ported. The SB12+ is fine for smaller rooms or music systems.
Not so much wider or deeper is it, and the height is not a problem for my space or have I made a mistake?

I will have to double check the dimensions.



Frankly, if you can accommodate a 13-14" cube there isn't much that won't better a Quake including a few for considerably less money than a new Quake.

Russell
Any better suggestions than the two SVS subs?
 

Andywilliams

Active Member
Any better suggestions than the two SVS subs?
If height isnt a problem and the 16" footprint is ok then the svs 20-39pc+ would be a good choice and better the above subs, Having owned the 20-39 i can vouch for its capabilities it would be a vast improvement over the quake. Give avsales a bell and go and demo the svs range you could even take the quake with you.
Andy.
 

mij

Well-known Member
If height isnt a problem and the 16" footprint is ok then the svs 20-39pc+ would be a good choice and better the above subs, Having owned the 20-39 i can vouch for its capabilities it would be a vast improvement over the quake. Give avsales a bell and go and demo the svs range you could even take the quake with you.
Andy.
Thanks Andy, I will look at that as well :smashin:
 

kingcobbler

Active Member
Maybe take a look at the Q series of Rel's. I used to have a Q201E and that wasn't bad and that small. I have since moved up to the Q400E and that still only about 14" cubed and packs a punch for its size.

I will be moving to a SVS PC13Ultra in a couple of months so I'll be flogging the Q400E at some point.
 

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