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Sub to partner VM1's

Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by FunkyMonkey, Jan 16, 2003.

  1. FunkyMonkey

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    Hi. Did a search for VM1 and found a lot of info. Not any that answers my exact question. I wonder if anyone can help.

    So which sub to partner the VM1's. They'll be used 50/50 for music and movies, being fed from a Sony STRDB930 receiver. An oldee but a goodee!

    I want the sub to be as musical as it is muscular.

    The catch is, having spent so much on the VM1's, I am limited to spending as little as possible on the Sub. I want to go a step up from, for example, the REL Quake. I'm not bothered about the make as such, just need something that will be good enough for VM1's. Therefore, any suggestions on what and how much, please?
     
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    Have a look here for good prices on Velodyne subs.
    Spend as much as you can afford, a bad sub i worse than no sub.
     
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    I am using a REL Q150 with my VM1's and very happy with it - space is an issue for me though, so if it isn't for you then the obvious choice is the Velodyne CHT-10 which at £325 is a bargain price.

    :)
     
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    I've read many good things about the Velodyne on these pages. Is this good for music?

    Where can I see pictures, technical info and connections for this, please?

    Cheers.
     
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    Aah, the Velodyne site, what a good idea. :blush:
     
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    Just done a search on Google and found many links.

    Anyway, seen one advertsied for US$365

    Only place I found sellign them in UK was £385.

    Anyone know any other dealers?

    Thanks.
     
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    really? you don't know about eric? how'd that happen. go to the powerbuy forum here and pick one up from Uncle Eric for £325!
     
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    Are the vm1 and their partnering sub powerful enough for a room 23ft long by 12.4ft. i have demoed the kef eggs - not bad but feel they dont have enoug clout. dealer very keen to push bose 15's. heard good thingd about Gallos but a crap what hifi reviews. any comments / advice much appreciated. i am a novice.
    nb - also trying to choose between sony 555es and pioneer 2011
    thanks
    jaybeegee
     
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    The Gallos filled my room without a problem (20*14ft)
    I think its a great sub, but it has acolades from many more knowledgable than i, as a search of the forum should reveal.

    spence
     
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    That says everything about your dealer and why you should be looking elsewhere.

    The reviews here are from people with no vested interests in what they purchase except what sounds good to their ears.

    Bose haven't submitted their kit to mags for years due to the slating they used to get but there was a review in What Hifi last month and this month Bose have bought advertisng space in the very same mag.

    Draw your own conclusions
     
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    The current issue also, amazingly enough, contains another Bose review - albeit slightly less favourable...

    "Curiouser and curiouser", said Alice
     
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    Those VM1's......r they the 1's in What-Hifi this month?


    They look pants.

    What do they sound like?
    Lifestyle all the way

    Spligsey
     
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    Each to their own

    They sound excellent.

    Re: the lifestyle comment - don't knock something until you've heard them. You could say that the Gallos are "lifestyle all the way" - in which case there are plenty here who now are "lifestyle". More and more people don't want a lounge full of big speakers - it's that simple, I'd expect most major speaker manufacturers to release a set of sub/sats around the £800-1200 mark in the next 18 months.
     
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    Wasn't knocking their sound as i haven't heard them...

    Spligsey
     
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    I went to Superfi on Saturday to check out the VM1's. They aren't as gorgeous in the flesh, but still pretty tasty as far as speakers go!

    Asked the dealer if he'd do a discount. He wasn't having it, which is rather unusual as I've always managed to get a discoutn without too much haggling. Maybe he assumed that people would be clambering for them now that What Hi Fi had given them top marks??? :mad:

    Anyway, didn't have time for a demo which is a shame.:(

    So anyone know of any on-line UK dealers that will do them for less than the normal price, please?

    Thanks.
     
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    FunkyMonkey,

    I gather you've seen my post pages:

    http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59028
    http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42252

    etc. Somewhere in those pages I mentioned Audio-T doing a January sale .. there are doing it again this year. They have a discount that they apply to each ordered item - 10%, 12.5%, 15% off 1st, 2nd, 3rd item see
    http://www.audio-t.com/html/sale.html

    You're on the right track if you can get a belting specialist sub in the £350-£500 region with the VM1 as this is what's required in a large-ish room setup.

    KLee
     
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    hi funkymonkey
    Have a demo of the b&w asw675 ive just swapped my rel q150e for this sub and its great with music as well as movies and would partner the vm1s well.
    gonzo
     
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    Thank you Klee - I read the posts and your excellent review before deciding to go for the VM1's. I ain't buying them for full price as this would mean compromosing on the sub!

    Gonzo - I have my heart set on the Velodyne CHT-10, but will consider the B&W - it makes sense, doesn't it?

    Thanks for your help. Now gonna check out Audio T.....this is what I found:

    HUGE SALE DISCOUNTS

    10% off the first item over £100.

    12.5% off the second item, over £100 and bought at the same time.

    15% off the third (and subsequent) item, over £100 and bought at the same time.

    Offers exclude: Arcam FMJ series, B&W, Classe, Dynaudio, M&K, Naim Audio, Rega Products and REL. On these items products we will give free accessory items to the value of the sale discounts.

    So it seems I could order some cable to go with the speakers. Better than a poke in the eye with a sh*tty stick I suppose.
     
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    I've bought B&W from Audio T with it supposedly excluded from their sale and they did apply the discount - and when I bought my VM1's just before Xmas B&B Hi-Fi in Reading matched the discounts that Audio T were offering. You should be able to get at least 10% off the VM1's.
     
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    You're welcome. Do squeeze them hard on the cables! I went for QED Silver Anniversary for all fronts and the thinner Micros for the rears. Oh one thing - try to get a longer, if not equivalent length cable for the middle speaker - one of the reason being flexibility for positioning the centre spkr either below or above your tv/plasma unit unless of course you have a projector. Anyway just a tip to consider. Also it goes unsaid to have the L and R fronts wider apart (room permitting) rather than closer together - the VM1s vertical axis spread is good and this'll maximise it. Enjoy and don't forget to write back to us all!!
     
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    Our new house, for which all this intended, won't be built until early March at the latest, so I won't be able to test gear until then. Also, that is the reason I haven't contacted Uncle Eric yet as per the intended purchase of the Velodyne. I want to audition others first for personal knowledge if nothing else, and I don't want to waste Uncle Eric's time until then!! For example, if I audition something for £200 and it blows me away, I will have to consider if spending 60% more is going to give me the benefit.

    About mounting the B&W's - does it matter how high they are mounted relative to the listener, or do the normal speaker rules apply. Incidentally, why does the height of speakers (as long as they are ubviously infront of you "in the distance") matter?

    Phew.

    Once again, thanks to all.
     
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    The idea with speaker height is to get the tweeter at around ear height when you're in your normal listening position. But, I've got my VM1's about 4.5 feet off the floor (wall-mounted), and they sound superb.
     
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    Thanks Radiohead, but do you know WHY they should be at ear level? I guess it's directionality, but I thought sound waves were dispersed in all directions??
     
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    As I understand it, the "sweet spot" with conventional speakers is with the tweeter at ear height, with the stero pair directly in front of you - I know that higher frequencies are far more directional than lower, and the human ear can locate these frequencies well. I'm sure there are more knowledgeable folk here who can either set me right or explain in more detail.

    BTW - when I said 4.5ft off the floor, I should mention that that is as measured to the top of the VM1 when mounted on the wall.
     

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