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Sub Sat or conventional.

Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by azzo, Nov 11, 2002.

  1. azzo

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    I have a very small listening room (8X13 ft)
    and have the sofa at one end (the long end)
    and the screen along the other wall (7ft across)
    Now I am looking for a detailed quality set of speakers
    which I can listen to at low volume so I do not upset the
    neighbours.
    Can anybody give me their opinions on either a
    sub sat (e.g. KEF HT2005) or something like a B&W 600 series,
    probably with the smallest speakers as the rears and fronts.
    I also have a problem with speaker positioning as the sofa
    being on the back wall give me a small amount of room to
    each side. Basically the speaker would probably be 1 ft from
    our ears!
    Any advice, as always will be greatly appreciated.
    Oh yes they will be driven by a Sony STRDB840, not so worried
    about a sub and have 500-700 ish to spend.

    Azzo
     
  2. Ian J

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    One foot from your ears is too close. Try looking at something like the flate Mission bipole speakers for the rears and mount them high up the wall at the side if possible.
     
  3. azzo

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    Point taken,

    The two most important things with speakers
    are positioning and acoustically matching. (IMHO)
    Are dipole speakers suppose to be mounted like this (on the
    sides, at height). Would this arrangement be OK for normal speakers as well. How would the missions be matched for fronts?
    So many questions...
    Azzo
     
  4. Ian J

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    The preferred way to mount Mission bipoles is high on the side walls on the same plane as you listening position. It is also acceptable to mount direct radiating speakers in the same position.

    It is also preferred that all five speakers are tonally matched but in my opinion it is far more important that the front three match than the two rears.

    I have M&K speakers at the front but Mission M7DS at the rear
     
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    Azzo

    I recently purchased (3 weeks ago) a set of (5 @ 50 ea) Elac Cinema Sat 1 AV speakers. They are approximately 6x3x3 inches and are excellent for HC. I am going to put them up FS in the very near future on the forum at around £45 ea + p&p.

    The only reason I am selling them is that 'er indoors' prefers 2ch and I managed to get a set of Q35's at a great price. It might be worth considering. Lmk if your interested or want any further details. They all come with wall mounting brackets and are silver in colour.

    7ThGuest :)
     
  6. azzo

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    Hi 7thGuest,

    Thanks for the offer, but I haven't quite decided whether
    to go down the sub-sat or conventional speaker route.
    You see I already have a sub-sat system (yamaha)
    and a conventional unmatched system. Both aren't working
    for me, so I am looking at spending a lot more and
    getting something I can live with in the space available for a long time.

    Thanx
    Azzo
     
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    Just a thought

    Regards

    7ThGuest :)
     
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    What Yamaha sub/sat package do you currnetly have?
     
  9. azzo

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    I am using the yamah NSP-220.
    Its OK, but is really lacking in mid range. And although good for
    the price I am lookking for something a lot better.
    I still keep moving from something like the KEF2005 and
    the B&Ws. The later being too large and still not convinced that
    the former can deliver the goods.
    Azzo
     
  10. Andywilliams

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    hi azzo
    i have just upgraded from the nsp 220 to mission m71is m7c2 centre and m7ds surrounds qed silver anniversary speaker cable sub relq150 yamaha 5540 receiver the sound now is 100% better than the nsp220 set up.Also you can get a good deal from hifi junkies as i did .They will try their best to match anyother price on the net or other retailers.
    gonzo
     
  11. azzo

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    Thank-you,

    So an upgrade is imminent. I guess you get what you pay for.
    Yamaha – 150 quid. Anything else. A lot more. I think my room
    Dictates a sub-sat system, just due to its size.
    I will have to audition a few systems. So far I have
    The KEF 2005, B&WVM1 or VL1, mission FS1 and still looking…
    Azzo
     
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    gonzo how big is your living room? Mine is 19ft 3in x 14ft 6in.

    How do the NSP-220 and the Missions cope with filling the room.

    I'm either gonna go for the Yamaha NSP-320 for £150, (next one up from 220 model) or the M71, M7c2 and KEF Cresta 1 as rears.

    Or an equivalent from Wharfedale (Dimaond 8.1) or Tannoy.
     
  13. Andywilliams

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    hi spacecowboy my room is 16ft by 14ft if i was you i would go the mission way .these are good sounding speakers and are plenty loud enough for my room just make sure you get the i series you could get the m72i just to make sure. gonzo
     
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    i series?? What do the "i series" have that the standard speakers don't?
     
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    hi spacecowboy
    The i series have better crossovers and are better braced internally making for a tighter sound. I demo both speakers as i also thought whether there would be a difference in sound.I would also go for the m7d surrounds as these match the rest of the m series.
    gonzo:D
     

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