Sub Recommendation, please

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  1. Reel To Reel

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    I have a 10 year old Rel Stentor that has has served me well with my Yamaha DSPA1 etc.. But now I have upgraded to a pre/pro combination of a lexicon Mc8/Bryston 9b sst (5 channel) and want to get a new sub - budget £1k to £2k - 2nd hand preferred.

    Suggestions most welcome
     
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    Hi,

    What size is your room?
    What are your listening preferences, movies, music?
    What connections do you require/prefer (Simultaneous High and Low Level etc.?)
    What size can you accomodate (SWMBO!)?
    What speakers do you have?

    All this will help :)

    Adam
     
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    Ok I shall go out on a limb and recommend a sub no one in the UK has heard, including me :D

    SVS SB12 Plus, available at a special Powerbuy price from theses hear fourms.

    I have a slightly bigger room that yours and own one of its bit brothers the PB12 Ultra. This is more than enough for my room but it is a huge sub. The SB12 is only a 14" cube with 12" driver and if the rest of the very good SVS subs are anything to go by it will be a cracker :)

    If you can accomodate a bigger box then the PB12 plus will provide more SPLs at lower frequencies and generally more clout everywhere else too. These are great Subs for Movies and Music.

    All of these fall well within your budget new and outperform many more expensive rivals for the same price. They don't however include a user friendly onbourd EQ like some of the Velodynes etc.

    info and piccies here , here and here
     
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    Are you DD in disguise, are you....

    Russell
     
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    :mad: No he isnt!

    *Pouts*
     
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    As much as I would like to be a member of the 'yoof of today', unfortunately I am not :D
     
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    With that sort of budget to play with you have a whole host of options to look at...Velodyne & SVS have quite a few in that bracket.

    If size is of no restriction then Look at the SVS range of subs in the power buy Forum..

    The Velodyne DD range ie 15/18 have been selling lately on the forums and should also definitly be considered too..

    :D
     
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    Hi,
    Out of interest why do you want to change from the REL stentor?,
    Is it lacking in some way?.

    Paul.
     
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    It's my impression that the bass is not tight and maybe a bit slow. I recently 'heard' a velodyne DD15 - that was very dynamic.
     
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    Or four of them? :)
     
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    Hi,
    Do you run your fronts (and center) full range?, or do you use a crossover?.
    If you run your Kef 107's full range how would you describe their bass quality/sound?.

    I'm interested because I have a Kef Reference sub which happens to use the exact same bass drivers/loading as your 107's,
    And also it will provide more details of how much bass the sub will be required to deliver (i.e. mainly LFE + bass from surrounds only - or all the bass in your system).

    Sub suggestions,
    As you already know Velodynes do have a good reputation for perceived quickness, also M&K subs traditionally have a quick dry character and seem to be selling 2nd hand quite cheaply nowadays - you could get a few:thumbsup:.
    Have not heard the SVS so can't comment there.

    Paul.
     
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    Cheers
     
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    what's the model name?
     
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    Hi,
    It is a Kef Reference AV1 Sub,
    I only learn't after buying it that it shared the same bass setup as the 107's - which was a pleasant surprise,
    It's a real Nice sub :smashin:.

    For what it's worth,
    I think a pair of subs would be best, it always seems to work better than just one, and it could help give a smoother response (without having to resort to excessive EQ) in your squarish room.

    Although it could be considered a bit over-kill for just the LFE + redirected Rear bass, nah!.

    Interestingly a large proportion of Velodyne DD owners use pairs too.

    Paul.
     
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    My first choice would be a Velodyne Digital Drive. My DD15 was the best sub I ever heard (bar a double DD18 setup) and I soo miss it!:(

    Or you could always look at the Velodyne SPL1200, like the one I'm selling in the classifieds.;)
     
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    That Velodyne SPL was less than impressive.

    Probably why you're looking for its 6th owner in less than a year. :smashin:
     
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    i have used 2 rel stentors in the past,and they are still good subs.i think you are right in saying that they can be a little slow,but only compared to some pretty pricey sealed subwoofers.i have been using 2 revel b15a's in a 9m by 4.4m room and they are easily the best subs i have heard,for music and movies.they can also play at very good levels all the way down to their low end limits.none of this minus 10db at 16hz in room rubbish like a lot of makers quote.look for anachoic figures.i have sold one of these b15a subs but still have one which you are welcome to have a listen to.
     
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    I have now got the two subs connected properly to the lexicon mc8. I connected one sub to the sub out put on MC8, and the other to the front speaker posts on the power amp. And yes, it is a lot better effect now but I think the problem is comparing to the latest gizmo featuring all sorts of new tricks and immense power ( up to 1,5kW compared to 300 watts for the stentor). For example I sampled the Linn Melodik sub
    - it is so well controlled, but at a high price. A DD15 or two DD12's still seems favourite have not heard the revel b15s - you are in Essex, right?
     
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    I'm not selling because I don't like it.
    It's a cracking, very waf friendly sub, but there are of course other great alternatives to choose from.
     
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    yes i am in essex.
     
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    Thanks - if I have the opportunity (and you have the time), I would like to take you up on your offer. will PM you in that event.
     
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    thats fine.will await your pm.
     
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    Anyone hear have experience of the Kef psw4000 & psw5000? I like the furniture grade finish of the kef reference stuff.
     
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    what version mc-8 do you have?
    normally if you tell mc-8 that you have a sub,the front speakers are filtered at least at 30hz so the rel that is connected to the front speaker outputs will not be getting anything below that frequency.
     
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    It's version 1 - I can set full range on speakers even with a sub.
     
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    Ideally prefer a cherry finish. Most M& K's seem to be black
     

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