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  1. Miyazaki

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    To be honest "Spirited Away" & "Princess Mononoke" are the only Studio Ghibli films i've seen and as i love them both i can't bring myself to watch "Castle In The Sky" and "Kiki's Delivery Service" as i'm worried it might taint my love of the first two films. Are the other films really as good as i suspect they are? Or are they strictly under eight year old fare?

    I love a lot of manga and own "Perfect Dark", "Akira", "Ghost In The Shell", "Ninja Scroll", also other anime like "3x3 Eyes and also the variously inspired "Animatrix". I have watched a lot of the tv series such as gunsmith cats, sailor moon, and gundam, but never really got hooked.

    Can anyone heartily recommend any other Studio Ghibli, Manga or independent animé to me? I seem to have drawn my boundaries on this subject :rolleyes:
    Cheers! :)
     
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    Metropolis is very pretty
    Macross Plus is quite funny, top gun with robots
    Cowboy Bepop - Quite funny
    DragonBall Z - This needs to be watched for a while, once you can start to recognise who the hell is who this series really turns into a gem.
    Fist of the North Star - Awesome fights, slightly confusing story.
    Patlabor - Good robot action
    Street Fighter 2 (story a little bad, but fight scenes awesome)
    Wicked City/Monster City - Ok
    Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust - Drawing absolutely superb, story ok but kind of disjointed.
    Jin Roh : Wolf Brigade - Good animation, very slow story, character type film.
     
  3. Miyazaki

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    "Vampire Hunter D" is the only film i have purchased, watched and taken back to the shop on the same day. The drawings were in the same vein as "Thundercats". I thought the animation and the storyline was rubbish. Also owned a "Macross" film, which i thought was poor. Used to watch the "Dragonball Z" marathons on cartoon network all the time, then realised what the hell was i watching.


    Maybe i'm just spoiled with all the top notch feature film quality animation
     
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    Did you watch Hunter D or Hunter D : Bloodlust? Hunter D is the original 1985 version and Bloodlust is the new story ... 2001 I think. No way is Bloodlusts animation anywhere near Thundercats, simply some of the best manga sequences you will ever see, especially with a 5.1 surround set up.

    *shrug* I don't really watch Manga/anime for the graphics I quite enjoy the stories too and the Japanese way of character potrayal.

    If you really enjoy eye candy then watch Metropolis. You may also want to check out Golgo 13, that is ok.
     
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    I've been watching a fair bit on Bandai recently, mainly because me best mate keeps buying them on DVD.
    My favourite is Cowboy Beebop, great film, brilliant series.
    Metropolois is odd, but amazing all the same.
    I've yet to watch Macros Plus, but I will do that soon at it is meant to be very good.
     
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    :lesson: Please stop calling Anime 'Manga' - It really is very annoying to Anime fans. 'Manga is used when talking about Japanese comics or if you are talking about that crappy video company 'Manga entertainment' (who are improving)
    Heres a few of my favs......(Always watched in the original Japanese)

    Berserk TV- superb Sword and sorcery series, very dark with none of the usual comedy
    Record of Lodoss War OAV's + TV- Another great sword and sorcery series, based on the dungeons and dragons rpg's, again no comedy.
    Cowboy Bebop TV + Movie - Great Action packed Sci Fi classic with some superb music
    Macross 7 TV - very good sequel Tv series with some superb J Pop/rock tunes.
    Patlabor TV and movies - The movies have very little mecha action but are very well made character led dramas. The TV series is more mecha action with lots of comedy and is great fun.
    Escaflowne TV + Movie - Fantastic Sword and sorcery series with Mecha. The movie is an edited version of the TV series with some new footage.
    Gundam TV+Movies+ OAV's - Huge number of series/ movies etc. My Favs are 0080 War in the pocket, 0083 Stardust memories, 8th M.S. Team, Chars Counter attack movie, Gundam Zeta TV.
    Studio Ghibli movies - All of them - to honest all the movies I'v seen were superb. Which are...
    Ponpoko - Fantastic fun about a group of shape changing Racoons fighting to save there land from humans building on it.
    My Neighbour Totoro - Superb Kids film that can be enjoyed by any ages, brings back all the childhood memories
    Porco Rosso - Lovely animation about a pig/human pilot.
    Laputa/Castle in the sky - Great story and design, a superb movie
    Nausicaa - My all time Fav Ghibli movie, a real epic
    Princess monnoke - Again another classic. Quite dark. more than any of the other movies
    Spirited Away - And Another classic - set in the same universe as Totoro (great cameo from the Dust Sprites)
    Theres many other Ghibli movies but i havent seen them so cant recommend them.
     
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    Yes! Particularly Laputa and Nausicaa. Ghibli films are suitable for all ages.

    :smashin: :smashin:
     
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    When did i ever refer to the genre as Manga?
    And if you want to be that pedantic about it, it is actually "Animé" not "Anime". The title of my post was studio ghibli, manga et al. So i can only presume you have no idea what et al means.
     
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    I called anime manga when referring to the sequences in Vampire Hunter D : Bloodlust and personally I don't really care :p

    I know what I mean when I say it and 99% of people understand what I mean when I say it, I am sure the 1% of pedants can put up with it.
     
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    Stop it girls or I'll bang your heads together. If you can't say anything nice then don't say it.

    Manga, anime - we all know that in this context it refers to Japanese animation.

    By the way Games Guru, I think you are confusing pendantry with nit picking
     
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    Whoops sorry people - Bad day at work ;)
    The reason i dont like people calling Anime, Manga is because most people seem to think all manga is about extreme sex and violence thanks to Manga entertainment and they seem to think that Manga entertainment is the only company that does release Anime. I must say i dont mind a bit of old fashioned Extreme sex and violence but i also love a good Ghilbi movie etc.
     
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    yeah i know, thats probably why i over-reacted and got nasty too. I love my MANGA ;) :D
     
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    Team hug everyone!

    I've got Princess Mononoke & My Neighbour Totoro. Great films. Geat animation style, knocks Disney into a cocked hat.

    I like watching My Neighbour Totoro woth Japanese dialogue & english subs. Haven't tried PM like that yet, not even sure if I can

    Julie
     
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    Does anyone have any idea when the 2 films that are out at the cinema currently will be going to DVD?

    I can't remmember their names (I think one is a Disney production), one set in Paris and the other in Japan. they both loook very good, but I can never seem to get to the cinema these days.

    Ta peeps.
     
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    Do you mean Bellevue Rendezvous and Spirited Away?
    Don't know about the availability of bellevue but Spirited away has been available for a while on region1.
     
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    I think he means finding nemo and spirited away??

    Yeah i have had spritied away for ages on region 1 dvd.
    Only shame is that its distributed by disney,,,,,
    the root of all evil
     
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    Cheers guys.

    It is Bellevue Rendezvous and Spirted Away.

    I saw a load of posters for them on the Tube last time I was in town.
     
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    Anime isn't french, it's just "anime" - there's no accent.

    I think it's a fair point what eyecatch raised, manga are comic books so when talking about animation just use "anime". Not having a go or anything.

    Personally I can't recommend "Berserk" enough, it really is fantastic.
     
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    Strange a lot of my friends are animators and some of them have even worked on "anime" and we all pronounce it "animé".
    One of them is even Japanese.
     
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    That's because the japanese pronounce "me" - as "meh".

    I was just pointing out to Games Guru that actually it's not written with an accent.

    Japanese alphabet goes like this(english pronunciation in brackets):

    Ma (Mah)
    Mi (Me)
    Mu (Moo)
    Me (Meh)
    Mo (Moe)
     
  21. Miyazaki

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    I realise that splinter.

    Really is it THAT important to you?

    the inflection on the letter e "é" is not exclusive to the french language, it is used simply as a tool in the gregorian alphabet to convey the pronounciation of the letter. Look in a dictionary and you will find the use of this and many other omloutes, inflections and suffixes to show people how to pronounce a word.
     
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    It is important to me when you flame a long standing member after he gave you some very good advice.

    You stated that it's properly written with an accent which is crap - it may mean something to people about how to pronounce things, but you can't write a japanese word with an accent. It's just "Anime".

    Sorry, I just felt like defending someone after that stupid comment. Next time someone takes the time to help you don't use the know it all approach.
     
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    Hang on a minute...


    It seemed to me that he was doing the flaming. And then you.

    besides its really not important at all.

    I don't see the need for such petulance :boring:

    So i made the mistake of saying that was how anime should have been spelt, instead of pronounced.

    Maybe next time i make a grammatical error i'll be sure to run it past you for correction. :suicide:
     
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    haha :devil: :devil: :devil:
     
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    Article looks ok to me. The writer clearly defines that manga is comics and anime is animation.

    Good article though, cheers for the link.
     
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    Manga is the 'publisher' though isn't it technically?

    I watched one of their films last night, called Blue summit. About a girl in a pop group who goes a bit mad. It was very good, if not a very confusing esp after a few beers at about midnight.
     
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    "Manga UK" is a distributor in the UK just like EIV or Warner.

    In Japan though, comics are called Manga. A lot of anime films and tv series started off life in comic books. As they said in that article there's a huge market for manga in Japan, you can pick up manga about any subject.

    Sounds like it was Perfect Blue you saw. I've yet to see it myself but I hear it's really good.
     
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    Yeah Perfect Blue sounds right. Well worth watching, very odd, but fascinating.
     
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    Perfect Blue needs to be seen more than once to unravel the various layers within. A bit gruesome in places, maybe a bit gratuitous but I guess that is manga, oops, anime
     

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