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Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by F1F3R, Apr 30, 2003.

  1. F1F3R

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    hello ,

    when setting up speaker sizes in menus when does a small speaker become a large speaker ? :) hehe

    confused myself.... but do i set my speakers sizes in menu to large or small ..

    i have B&W VM1's

    ps what is best budget subwoofer for around 200 - 300 pounds ?
     
  2. Sunil

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    In laymen's terms, if the speaker can produce bass sound then it can be set to large. When a speaker is set to small bass sound from that channel is redirected to the sub. That avoids a small speaker distorting.
     
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    Personally, unless the speaker can produce bass output at 20hz I'd leave it set to Small. There aren't many speakers that can do that though (even some subs struggle!).

    In your case leave them all set to small and all bass redirected to the sub (assuming you have one).

    It's worth checking out the PowerBuys Forum for the Velodyne range of subs, in your budget there is the VX10 for 199 quid and the CHT10 at 325 quid, just over budget, but a very good sub by all accounts.
     
  4. F1F3R

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    simple as that :)

    thnx
     
  5. F1F3R

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    thanx for the sub advise, jase.

    i dont have a sub at the moment but will be buying one today.
    my basic setup is on my web site but im lost at trying to set menus etc :)

    hopefully soon it will be setup properly.
     
  6. Jase

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    Just had a look at your site and your current setup, leave them all set to Large and No Sub. When you get a sub, set them all to small, bass to sub as I mentioned and you should be ok. :)
     
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    Just looking at your website ... have you tried using the 601's for the front channels as they are better speakers than the VM1s will be ... especially if you're listening to music.

    Vikki
     
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    Just to confuse matters I would recommend keeping your VM1's as the front speakers as they will be a much better tonal match for the VM Centre than the 601s will be.

    I trust that the centre speaker on the floor was only for photographic duties and that it normally resides at a higher level than that.
     
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    As an addendum to my post ... and Ian's ... I'd say try both ways round :)

    Vikki
     
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    What is the best position for the centre speaker then? Presumably it has to be either above or below the TV.
     
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    Either on the TV or on a stand just under the screen.
     
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    hi
    thnx for the advise.

    vikki i have tried swaping the speakers around but dont notice much difference between the vm1s and 601s, so probably stick to vm1s at front .(as ian j advises).
    ps
    its mainly films i watch.

    jase i have kept the setting at large as u advise , until a subwoofer arrives. ( order one today ) then i will set them to small.

    still havent decided on a sub yet tho.

    regarding the center speaker, i dont have much options for placing it. ( i think maybe placing a small table in front off tv when watching films ... but dont know if it will make much difference to sound ? . i thought about a bracket for top off tv but thats maybe a little high .and maybe look really clumsy ?

    what do you advise for center ian j ?
     
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    Hi F1F3R!!,(can we call you that??!)

    Looking at your, (very smart) set up, and judging by the side profile of the RP Tosh, i'd say you'd have no worries putting the centre on top. Best bet is to put four small blobs of blu tac under each corner of the speaker to

    a)make sure it stays on the tv,

    and

    b)makes sure vubrations are kept to a minimum.

    What you'll find is that from your seated position dialogue and screen effects from the centre channel have more focus and a better sense of location with the onscreen image - rather than sound coming from somewhere underneath the screen. Also pans across the front soundstage will sound much better.

    BTW what amp is that? Just out of interest. Is it the 1080 or lower?

    As for a sub, you really can't go wrong with the Velodyne subs, i'm sure pretty much 70% of the peeps on here would back me up on that??:smashin:

    Westy
     
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    The best place for the centre is on top ov the TV but I presume that is impossible in your case. A wall bracket is out of the question as there is no wall behind the TV leaving you with a small speaker stand or table which should bring the speaker just under the screen.

    This should lock the dialogue to the screen much better and I would presume that at the moment much of the output from the centre is disappearing into the carpet
     
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    westy .. thnx for the comments :) and yea u can call me F1F3R :)
    and i will look at these subs just now.

    its the 780qs amp as i waited for on delivery off the 1080 for 7 weeks only too find out it is being upgraded to a newer model and didnt want to wait another few months . so bought the lower spec 780 . ( but seems like a good enough amp to me, plenty off connections , good output and sounds good )
    ps its not the tosh rp tv even tho its smart also i went for the sony rp tv.

    ian j ,i didnt even think that the sound would be lost into the carpet until i sat the speaker on a table .. it made a difference to the sound.
    i think its maybe possible to get a small bracket that sits on top off the tv , that the speaker can be placed on .
    if not i will get a small table and place the speaker on that . ( it will be putting the speaker near the bottom off screen tho . but im sure the vm1's are magnetically shielded anyway so hopefully its ok . )
     

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