Stephen King's Doctor Sleep Review & Comments

crackazz99

Standard Member
Just watched it ... I thought it was excellent, easily a 8-9 and I felt the best Ewan McG film in ages. Yeah some parts in the hotel were a bit odd (think Jack N) and took you a little somewhat away from the story but overall I would recommend. RF as Rise was brilliant too!
 

barnaby jones

Distinguished Member
Thought this was decent. Lacks that Kubrick magic though and found
the returning recast characters massively jarring, in this day and age it just felt cheap, I’d rather they just weren’t in it, particularly Jack, was such a duff lookie likey
I also had an issue with Ferguson, she was just too clean and beautiful to be a pikey cult leader.
Otherwise it was relatively compelling, well told tale.
6/10
 
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Nightwatch77

Active Member
You put this
"It's a pretty well-known piece of film trivia that King didn’t love Kubrick’s version of his classic book, and Doctor Sleep director Mike Flanagan has attempted to bridge the gap between the original film and the novel"

3 paragraphs later
"It's a pretty well-known piece of film trivia that King didn’t love Kubrick’s version of his classic book, and Doctor Sleep director Mike Flanagan has attempted to bridge the gap between the original film and the novel. The script is clearly adapted"

Why repeat yourself?
 

Casimir Harlow

Blu-ray Reviewer
You put this
"It's a pretty well-known piece of film trivia that King didn’t love Kubrick’s version of his classic book, and Doctor Sleep director Mike Flanagan has attempted to bridge the gap between the original film and the novel"

3 paragraphs later
"It's a pretty well-known piece of film trivia that King didn’t love Kubrick’s version of his classic book, and Doctor Sleep director Mike Flanagan has attempted to bridge the gap between the original film and the novel. The script is clearly adapted"

Why repeat yourself?
It's a pullout quote.
 

Nightwatch77

Active Member
For the whole experience, watch the shining with her, or at least, tell her what it's about.

I would defo make her watch it though
 
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Casimir Harlow

Blu-ray Reviewer
Is it necessary to see the original as my wife hasn't seen The Shining?
Considering it's attempting to tie in both the original source novel, the disowned classic film adaptation, and the recently penned sequel novel, into one relatively cohesive whole, I would think that familiarity with either the original book or movie would be a pre-requisite, no?
 

Slinkywizard

Well-known Member
I will wait for 4KBD on this one. In the meantime, can I just say 'Doctor Sleep' is a frickin' terrible title for anything: Album, book, DJ, sedative, film, gadget – ANYTHING.
 

barnaby jones

Distinguished Member
I will wait for 4KBD on this one. In the meantime, can I just say 'Doctor Sleep' is a frickin' terrible title for anything: Album, book, DJ, sedative, film, gadget – ANYTHING.
It may have meant more in the book, but it doesn’t relate much to the film.
 

Coulson

Well-known Member
I was watching a review from a hard core Horror geek who really knows his horror, but also appreciates films in general.. The Shining is his favourite film of all time. He doesn't try to compare this to Kubrick's film as he says that would be unfair, especially given the amount of time that film has been around. But for what it's worth, he likes this film a lot.
 

Malingo

Active Member
Considering it's attempting to tie in both the original source novel, the disowned classic film adaptation, and the recently penned sequel novel, into one relatively cohesive whole, I would think that familiarity with either the original book or movie would be a pre-requisite, no?
Read that as 'recently panned'. Still a factual sentence.
 

SyStemDeMoN

Well-known Member
Not long got back from seeing this and thought it was great.
It is missing the Kubrick factor but I think it would of been 3.5 hours long if he had his hand in it and also another 10 years away from being made as he was such a perfectionist.

7.5/10 for me. Enjoyable and fits in with its parent film I think.
 

barnaby jones

Distinguished Member
Not long got back from seeing this and thought it was great.
It is missing the Kubrick factor but I think it would of been 3.5 hours long if he had his hand in it and also another 10 years away from being made as he was such a perfectionist.

7.5/10 for me. Enjoyable and fits in with its parent film I think.
You say that, but Dr Sleep was longer than The Shining and it felt it too
 

lucasisking

Distinguished Member
Really enjoyed that. Felt different from its predecessor and added plenty to the mythology, and I thought Rebecca Fergusson was terrific as the main antagonist (although her Irish accent seemed to vanish into thin air halfway through the film) . The young girl was really good too, for a while at least.

The bit I was most looking forward to (
showdown at the Overlook
) was the most disappointing sequence. Felt ever so generic and in a way was just as fan servicey as the sequence in Ready Player One. Fergusson loses her menace and becomes annoyingly verbose, and I almost began to lose patience with the girl as well, who never seems particularly bothered by what's happening. In The Shining, Danny Torance was petrified at all times, which really sells the terror of that film. I didn't get that sense of threat here and so I was never unsettled.

Having said that, I was pretty impressed with the bulk of the movie especially some of the telepathic abilities on display. Good story and characters, just derails itself in the last act. 7/10
 

allanp

Active Member
Can anyone confirm what aspect ratio this was shown at your cinemas? Our seems to show this at something like 2.20:1, but it looked wrong and the BBFC title card was cut off top and bottom before the film started. IMDB suggests it is 1.85:1. I complained/queried this with the staff when the film started but no one seemed to know and nothing was changed.
 

megson

Active Member
Having recently endurEd the latest Terminator film with, in my opinion, its complete lack of originality and a lazy simplistic script, how nice to see a film that was both well cast and well acted; had a scary and unsettling story; and made sensible references to the film that spawned it without being some kind of money grabbing clone. I loved it. The sound track was fantastic in my local Showcase Xplus screen and should be great if or when released on 4K UHD.
 

lucasisking

Distinguished Member
Doctor Sleep is basically in the same position as 2010: The Year We Make Contact.

Think about it.

Original story by Stephen King [Arthur C Clarke].
Story made into a genre-defining film masterpiece by Stanley Kubrick.
Sequel written by the author years later.
Sequel made into a film by a different filmmaker.
Film is actually really good, despite not holding a candle to the first.


Only difference is that Clarke didn't hate Kubrick's 2001 :)
 

Malingo

Active Member
Doctor Sleep is basically in the same position as 2010: The Year We Make Contact.

Think about it.

Original story by Stephen King [Arthur C Clarke].
Story made into a genre-defining film masterpiece by Stanley Kubrick.
Sequel written by the author years later.
Sequel made into a film by a different filmmaker.
Film is actually really good, despite not holding a candle to the first.


Only difference is that Clarke didn't hate Kubrick's 2001 :)
2010 is underrated.
Doctor Sleep is rated...about right? Maybe a bit high.
That is all. Please return to your business, citizens.
 

allanp

Active Member
I did think this felt like a worthy sequel to the original. I wouldn't mind seeing it again but whether I'd still be watching it in 40 years from now like the original remains to be seen.
 

Malingo

Active Member
I saw it last week and it turns out I'm seeing it again tonight with a family member. I'll let you all know how the second viewing changes things and whether it changes my impression from "that movie was perfectly fine" to "that movie was good"
 

Malingo

Active Member
I think, if anything, I've come away a little cooler than my first impression.

The problem I have with it is that it's trying to be everything to all people.
You want a good scare? Surprisingly, there really are a couple of those...but probably only a couple.
You want an introspective emotional drama? There are some great elements of that, sure.
You want a sequel to the Shining? Yeah, you sort of got that.
You want a completely different experience? Yeah, you sort of got that too.
You want a superhero movie about scream-vampires (why would you want a superhero movie about scream-vampires)? There's quite a lot of that.
King? Some of that. Kubrick? Some of that. Flanagan? Not enough of that.

It feels like it's a totally functional movie on any of those levels but hardly ever rises above that. It is super competent, you can't deny it. Everyone does a perfectly good job and nothing flat-out doesn't work*. But in navigating that space between revisiting the old, trading on some iconic imagery and trying to be it's own thing, it also becomes a bit bloated, a little bit flat and very messy.

*The hat is stupid. I will never back down from this. That hat is goofy nonsense and reads like a second year uni student trying to be quirky. There is absolutely no adequate reason for the hat. Why? Why the hat? Why? It is a stupid hat. Why must I look at the hat? Is it magic? No? I don't care. I hate the stupid hat. It's stupid and I hate it.
 

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