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Discussion in 'Star Wars Movies Forum' started by ADEOWEN, Jan 16, 2002.

  1. ADEOWEN

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    Just cant wait for these on dvd like most others,but i got the Definitive collection boxset off e bay recently and it reminded me just how great laserdisc was,
     
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    I think George is working on an all new Star Wars:Special Edition with some new bits to trie in on episodes I, II and III. Dont know how long its going to take or how much extra will be included.
     
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    i liked what lucas did with the sp editions except for two parts,the greedo shoots han first scene in star wars really was bad and i hated it and also the new jedi rocks sequence in jabbas palace was whay over the top.....otherwise good bits here and there...:p
     
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    If you want them on DVD youve got a long wait, they aint coming out till 2006.:mad:
     
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    So was the LD collection mentioned above the SE versions, also is it PAL (and presumable DPL) or NTSC (and presumably DD). How much for a second hand LD player (I'm not sure I can wait for 2006 either!).

    I've read on other threads that most modern TVs can cope with an NTSC signal, does that mean I could theoretically watch an NTSC disc on my PAL tv or would it need a converter of some kind? (my DVD has a PAL to NTSC converter in it so I can watch R1 DVD's fine).

    Lastly (...nobody expects the spanish inquisition) how does LD compare to DVD?

    Cheers;)
     
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    The copy I have (well both - I have definative and spec ed) are both NTSC and DD. A wopping 18 sides of play each.

    From memory the definative is CAV on all sides the spec ed is CAV on only a few (I think)

    Brilliant release of the movies - especially if not till 2006.

    I have put them up for sale , 2006 mmm maybe I should hold off (sorry Adrian :)

    I probably will still sell. I may sell the whole caboodle (inc LD player) for £500-£1000 you never know (player, cables, 70+ LDs)
    DVDs take up far less room, and the 200 disc carousel I've got makes keeping them unscratched and finger print proof very easy.

    Thankfully none of my LDs have laserrot I hope DVs don;t go the same way.
     
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    laserrot?:confused:
     
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    When a pressing plant makes a laser disc (or dvd for that matter) they sandwich the actual information between two platters of plastic (or something similar)

    the laser pickup reads the information through this protective layer.

    However, some plants press discs beter than others. Foreign objects (air, maybe even dust) can get in between the layer of info and the plastic protective layer. this will eventually casue the disc to seperate into its 3 component layers and the laser pickup will have difficulty reading the information off disk.

    This is laser rot and usually shows its ugly head as "sparklies" similar to snowstorm you got on analogue satelite signals in bad weather.
     
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    Thanks 4 clearing that up, but surely technology has progressed a bit since laserdiscs were the new thing. How common is it in DVD's (this is the first time i've heard of it). One of my old DVD's which is by an unknown studio, is starting to get a bit dodgy when watching it, but i thought this was due to my brother having no repect for my beloved film collection, and leaving them out of the boxes to collect dust and scratches. Is this laserrot:eek: I hope not I love the film.
     
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    I am not ware of any laser rot on DVDs as yet.

    Laserrot took a couple of years before it was notice on LDs. there is no gurantee that a pressing plant have upgraded their pressings to get around the laser rot issue. You would hope so, but some of the eastern countries who press the discs may take the cheap option and just retool thier existing equipment.

    One particular pressing plant in Philadelphia (I think) owned by a well known and respected Japanese producer of HC kit was renowned for denying there was a pressing problem with thier discs. this may continue to happen in the DVD arena.

    It also may not. The DVD is much more mainstream than LaserDisc was. At £40 they were for true movie buffs. So the investment in producing the discs wasn't offset by the sale volumes. This will be different for DVD pressing plants and the volume may warrant the extra investment.

    having said that, more "ordinary" consumers don't expect things to last forever and may "expect" to replace thier DVD collection in "a few years" time.

    The thing about laser rot, it happended regardless of how often you played the disk. It could sit on a shelf for 12 months, get dusted down and not play. even though it was perfect last time you used it.

    The technology is similar for pressing DVDs or LDs, the mentality of the manufacturer hopefully has changed and laser rot wont occur on DVDs to the extent it did on LDs.

    I hope.
     
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    Don't you think that Sky's constant showing of the four Star Wars films is undermining them somewhat.?

    I do.
     
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    Sky have got a nack of that, taking a good film showing every other day for months. After a while you dont want to see the film anymore, although it was quite good the other weekend when the showed all four one after the other, theres nothing like a good star wars fest to get rid of boredom.
     
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    Were any of them shown in DD 5.1 on Sky Prem WS?
     
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    So that the 10 people with SKY+ could listen to 'em :)
     
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    That same 10 people who thought Phantom Menace was a great film :D
     
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    I thought phanthom menace was great, Sky+ isnt all that though, I'd much rather have my Tivo any day, even if you can watch sky 5.1:p
     
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    It was a great film.....

    compared to Plan Nine from Outer Space.

    Or Attack of the 50ft Woman..


    Or ....
     
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    or The Avengers :)
     
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    Space Hunter - Adventures in the Forbidden Zone!:D
     
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    I didn't think that was too bad :)

    I was expecting the leads brother fom Rich Man Poor Man to keep appearing though :)
     
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    Going against the rest of the planet, I thought Moulin Rouge was a load of crap, switched it off after 45 mins. Before that, As Good As It Gets got switched off as well.

    Let the flame wars begin!;)
     
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    Each to thier own :p

    I like AGAIG, havent seen MR - dont fancy it.

    We (my wife and myself) went to the flicks to see AGAIG. At then end the wife turned to me and said 'Is that as good as it gets?'

    Philistine.
     
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    I thought Episode 1 was great too.

    as for Moulin Rouge... it was Ok and as a stand alone film it's entertaining and spectacular, it's just that we've seen it all before in Strictly Ballroom and Romeo and (the outstandingly gorgeous)Juliet. There were scenes in MR that seemed to be lifted from R&J, especially the Capulet party scenes, almost identical to the play in MR. MR appeared to be everything that Baz Lurhman was applauded for in R&J (Fast editing, dramatic and offbeat camera work, a modernised historical story, modern pop songs in a classical styleetc...) but more of it to fill out 2 hours.

    Oh and the heroine dies in the end...
     
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    Thanks for the synopsis - saved me a fiver renting it :D
     
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    Saved you the horror of watching it as well!:D
     
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    I thought Phamtom Menace was a great CGI & Sound FX demo, nothing more , nothing less.
     
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    No worries, hey, maybe I should start my own reviews...:D

    No, far to busy as it is
     
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    I saw it once at the flicks - cos its Star Wars.

    I haven't rushed out and bought the DVD though. Yet.

    You just know that Luca$ will release a special edition with 1.5 ms of extra footage (which will probably be ya ya binx or whatever its damn name is )

    then when the sales have dropped off again - another version will hit the high streets with an "extra special" selection of deleted scenes never seen before.

    been there

    done that

    bought Star Wars Spec Ed and the Definative collection.

    sames goes for 2006 when the alleged eps 4-6 come out on DVD. You know they'll be working on another edition for 2007

    :(
     
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    Realist but a cynic none the less;)
     

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