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Star Wars Original Trilogy due September 2004?

Discussion in 'Star Wars Movies Forum' started by Phil Hinton, Nov 17, 2003.

  1. Phil Hinton

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    We have reported today on a recent metting between Lucasfilm and retailers where they gave details of an Original trilogy release in September 2004. Read the story Here
     
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    SE editions of course..... seems very soon as well, that is unless they have already been doing a load of work on them!

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    I would expect a barebones release with a six film boxset, including George's super Special editions, released 2005/6 crammed full of extras etc.
     
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    If it's the SE's then they shouldn't call it the original trilogy.
     
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    I was thinking this myself. Generally speaking I do like the SE (bar the Han shooting first debarcle!) but I hope somwhen in the future a release of the 'original' versions will be made. I doubt it though.

    I'm debating whether to buy a laerdisc player and the original US laserdiscs releases and archive to DVD-R. But this would end up quite expensive for just three films (only the first one of which I have a problem with). :rolleyes:
     
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    Greedo shoots first and the silly argggggg as luke falls from Cloud City and the fact Darths voice isn't deep enough in a scene inserted into return of the Jedi, there's lots of annoying scenes added.
     
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    Yes, and also in Empire when Darth Vader leaves Cloud City - they changed the original line "Bring me my shuttle" to something much longer, and they didn't even use James Earl Jones' voice!! How pathetic! Oooo it makes me mad!!! :mad: :suicide: :hiya:
     
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    Yeah its something like alert my Star Destroyer or something like that :thumbsdow

    Crap the SE's are, but im just happy they are coming!! :D
     
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    I hate that bit where Hann steps on a computer generated Jabba's tail, it looks so naff...
     
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    Maybe when Lucus revisits the Original Trilogy to "add bits in" then he will rectify the scenes that have caused the most debate? You never know...
     
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    Yes I do not mind the extra bits that were in the original but hated the bits they re-did it looked so false.
     
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    Am I the only one who won't be buying it and have no interest whatsoever in the Star Wars trilogy DVD?

    AFAIAC, my back catalogue collection ended with the Indy Trilogy :)
     
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    I refuse to buy the edited original trilogy.
    Talk about wrecking it.
     
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    I'll buy it just to have it...... everyone likes it now and then, relatives come over and you can guarantee that someone wants to watch star wars!

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    Will be a tough one on whether to buy or not, but I get the feeling that I will cave in when the time comes.

    For me trouble is I have already archived off my VHS versions of the originals onto DVD and they have come up nicely.

    Question is whether it will be worth the expected 35/40 quid and dubious edited versions against superior sound and visual experience.

    Guess we will have to wait and see how good a job they do of it.



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    I believe i posted several times over there lol
     
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    I don't really know what else they could have done with that. The scene was shot long before anybody knew what Jabba was actually going to look like. They used a human actor (bulked out a bit) and intended to superimpose some kind of (perhaps stop-motion) beastie later. In the end the scene was cut from the original version of the film so it was never finished.

    The decision to cut it was, apparently, mostly a pragmatic one - it would have been technically hard to do, time and money were short, and Lucas couldn't be certain at that time that they would ever make any of the other episodes at all. With hindsight, after TESB and ROTJ had been made, he felt that that the whole Han/Jabba back story needed to be fleshed out more.

    But anyway, Han walking around behind Jabba was part of the original scene as shot. At the time of shooting they didn't know Jabba would have a tail. But his appearance was determined by ROTJ and therefore couldn't change much in the SE version of ANH. I think the stepping-on-the-tail bit was as good a compromise as any.
     
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    Ditto.
     
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    I suppose your right Nicholas, it does flesh the story out more, i have seen that scene unedited before with some bloke dressed as Jabba which admitedly looks a lot worse.

    I also can't really complain about cleaning up the print and remixing the sound for the DVD... Ah well, at least it's coming even if it does have some naff looking computer generated bits!
     
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    What setup did you use for this? I have the original trilogy on vhs I swear each time I watch them, the quality degrades so I want to archive them asap.
     
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    I think people are a little hard on the SE versions.

    Did you know, for example, that every visual effects shot that involves any kind of compositing (e.g. blue-screen work) in all 3 films was redone from the original component negatives, this time digitally rather than optically? If you can get hold of an original version of TESB, check the view from Luke's speeder during the raid with AT-ATs. You'll find you can see the background through what ought to be opaque sections of the cockpit.

    This was a deliberate compromise to make the effects of misalignments less obvious against the bright white (snow) backgrounds. In the SE version it is correctly opaque.
     
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    Mr.The.Spoon,



    I have a HS2 DVD Recorder so fed the video into that and then archived off to a DVD. From my perspective there is certainly no loss in quality from the original VHS version with the compression put on by the HS2.

    At that point the video went upstairs as they were my last VHS tapes I still had and used.



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    In Star Wars when the 4 tie fighters are attacking the Millennium Falcon you can see in one scene how the shot was made up, which I would not mind them cleaning up, but the laser fire and the Star Destroyer propulsion looked so false in the SE’s.
     
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    so in other words if they must meddle..... clean the whole thing up properly.......

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    Cheers yatesd2404
    A DVD recorder is next on the list of things to buy myself. Think I'll have to wait until after Christmas and then see how much money I can scrape together :)
     
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    I personally do not mind them cleaning things up rather than interfering, but what would they do about the bit where the Wookie shows his trainer?
    The SE from what I remember cut the bit where the storm trooper banged his head, why I do not know such thing happen in real life (as did on the set) so they must happen in the Star Wars universe.:confused:
     
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    But in star wars universe, they have the force where we simply have a farce, hence our problems!

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    Movie makers hate things happening that they didn't plan. Something taking the focus away from the main characters are defusing a tense situation.

    My favorite bit of Empire Strikes Back is during Vader and Luke's saber battle when Luke jumps off the edge of a platform and out of shot only to bounce back into shot due to a trampoline :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

    Was not good that being taken out from the SE :(
     
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    That was what annoyed me most about the special editions... the fact that they only updated some of the scenes and not others made it feel like a half-assed job. For example, what about the Super Star Destroyer crashing into the Death Star in ROTJ, the special effects in that scene are awful. And also one of the Snow Speeder crashes in TESB looks really naff because the scale is all wrong.

    Oh well at least George has given us all something to endlessly talk about! :laugh:
     

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