What a good point!We live on a space ship. Nobody dies from a spear wound!
Very fair.Pretty much my feelings forwards it with a similar score (probably a 7/10) the creators obviously love Trek and try and cram in as many references as they can almost as if they are trying to make up for the lack of them in Discovery and Picard.
I can imagine coming into this show with just a love for established Trek might sour the experience but if you come too it being a Trek fan and also a Rick & Morty/Final Space fan then I think it goes down much easier.
Yes it’s a 4th wall breaking parody which is somehow meant to also be classed as part of the Prime timeline (that alone has been enough to write it off for many fans) but it also fills a hole for the Trek I grew up with that hasn’t been seen since 2005 and I would happily cancel Discovery and Picard for more of this.
It's an issue almost all Kurtzman Trek writers have. I liked the first 2 seasons of Disco but by the end of season 2, all the 21st century tropes, colloquialisms and agendas were coming to the fore. I didn't bother with season 3. From what I have seen, heard and read, it sounds like this show has decided to skip the foreplay.Hearing that this is a love letter to TNG and classic trek is music to my ears. It's a shame that it takes a cartoon parody to deliver this, rather than two mega-expensive serialised shows (both of which feel like generic sci-fi rather than trek).
One (possibly stupid) question @Tom Davies ; is the dialogue and humour true to the TNG era, or is it 'current' eg full of whipsmart one liners and 2010's colloquialisms? One of my biggest beefs with modern trek is they forget they are writing characters from the far future. I get that this is comedy, but I think it would be so much funnier to parody trek by making them sound like goofball versions of 24th century folk, like in the funnier TNG episodes.
its no Orville.It's an issue almost all Kurtzman Trek writers have. I liked the first 2 seasons of Disco but by the end of season 2, all the 21st century tropes, colloquialisms and agendas were coming to the fore. I didn't bother with season 3. From what I have seen, heard and read, it sounds like this show has decided to skip the foreplay.
Yeah I've heard that too. I need to get round to watching that.its no Orville.
Yeah, if that's a sticking point for you, you're going to find more of it here.Is the dialogue and humour true to the TNG era, or is it 'current' eg full of whipsmart one liners and 2010's colloquialisms? One of my biggest beefs with modern trek is they forget they are writing characters from the far future. I get that this is comedy, but I think it would be so much funnier to parody trek by making them sound like goofball versions of 24th century folk, like in the funnier TNG episodes.
Yeah, if that's a sticking point for you, you're going to find more of it here.
I found less incongruous (more congruous?), probably because of the overall vibe, it's very much in the vein of an Adult Swim style animation.
The sad part is that Kurtzman's team didn't even want people like you. They wanted a "new" audience. I think we know what "new" really meant.Yeah, if that's a sticking point for you, you're going to find more of it here.
I found less incongruous (more congruous?), probably because of the overall vibe, it's very much in the vein of an Adult Swim style animation.
When I heard her say this, I was "transported" right out of the moment."that was f****ng cool".
I'm out, then.Thought so. Oh well, given that its a comedy I might find it more forgivable. Certainly cant be worse than the immersion-breaking guff Kurtzman & co were vomiting out in every Disco episode:
"that was f****ng cool".
"She's a queen!"
"Its da bomb"
"You got this"
"Damn, straight."
and my personal favourite: "B*llocks"
Because an empath from the other side of the galaxy, living in the 32nd century, is bound to use the exact same curse words as the Hackney, London actor who plays him.
Available to UK audiences on Prime as of Friday 22nd January!Am I going crackers or is this not available quite yet? I can't find it on Prime anywhere, is it free for Prime users?
Available to UK audiences on Prime as of Friday 22nd January!
Some people are ahead of the curve and have, I assume, been watching via CBS All Access.
Yeah I've heard that too. I need to get round to watching that.
Interesting! Unlike this show, that's the first negative review I've seen about The Orville and I've seen and heard lots of reviews.Orville is terribly bad, terribly, cringe-wortily bad, and yet i sat there watching it. I still don't know if i like it, but I'll watch more.
Lower Decks is like that bud ad from the 90's where everyone walks around going whazzzup! Funny at first but quickly becomes boring. The references are fun but its not anywhere near enough to have kept me watching.
Final Space Season 1 is a masterpiece, emotionally, musically and atristically, but season 2 falls far from Season 1 and a lot of what made Season 1 SO good, is watered down to piss jokes and too wide a set of characters.
Interesting! Unlike this show, that's the first negative review I've seen about The Orville and I've seen and heard lots of reviews.
BTW sir, Captain Amazing at your service