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Star Trek Into Darkness Cinema Review

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Liverpool One. IMAX.

Stardate 10.05.2013.14.10

I'm sitting incognito amongst indigenous Scouse population. Gold/Mustard crew jersey fitting rather snugly, Starfleet emblem hidden carefully beneath jacket. Phaser (from release of JJ's first film ... and still the best goddamn light 'n' sound toy replica on the market!) in pocket - but set to stun. Communicator (model Galaxy SIII) switched off as per local law.

As Benedict Cumberbatch's renegade Starfleet Officer, John Harrison would say ...

"Now ... shall we begin?"

James Cameron may well be King of the World, but if J.J. Abrams isn't the Master of the Universe at the moment, then he is certainly the one whispering sweet nothings in the celestial ear of the one who is. But whilst we ponder upon how he will help co-ordinate the chaotic days after the Empire has been defeated in a new slew of...


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Geoff_D

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Good stuff Chris, the mark of 7/10 is spot on. I totally agree about your spoilery section, I've been saying as much for the last couple of days. :D

A few odds and ends:
The super serum will probably be confiscated by Starfleet in time for the next film, just like the transwarp beaming from the first movie. If you could beam across the galaxy at the speed of warp or be brought back to life by a blood transfusion then there wouldn't be much space travel or peril left in the universe, and I hope to God that they don't come up with another plot-shredding miracle invention for the next film. (Though the idea of something of Khan getting imprinted on Kirk is an interesting idea.)

As for cosmic coincidence, you do know that they actually broached that subject in the '09 film but it was cut from the final movie? The whole reason why the 'old' gang were being aligned so perfectly in spite of the new timeline is because the universe (be it fate, a higher power, whatever) is trying to put itself back the way it was before Nero's incursion. That was Spock Prime's theory anyway.

That said, the '09 flick feels so fresh precisely because it doesn't feel the need to retread the past. Yes, the universe is trying to rebuild itself, which is why the crew ends up together with Kirk as captain, but that's about as far as it goes, and the destruction of Vulcan is evidence of how ruthless the filmmakers were willing to be regarding existing Trek lore. So, JJ made his own sandbox to play in, and what does he do next? He plays it safe with a mashup of Star Treks II and VI.

Perhaps, just perhaps, JJ and co. thought they'd gone too far with Trek '09 and decided to give the fans something a bit more familiar, and maybe give the new recruits their own 'KHAAAAAAANNNN!!!" moment into the bargain. Only it didn't quite work...
 

Geoff_D

Distinguished Member
Wouldn't that be a turn up for the books? The much maligned Mr Snyder ends up saving the blockbuster season...
 

rebel_scum

Distinguished Member
It was like Skrillex remixing your favourite song.

You recognise bits of it, might even begrudgingly like bits of it, but ultimately, it's complete ****.
 

Jim Di Griz

Distinguished Member
:) I hope they dont let that turd near any of my favourite tunes!
 

Trollslayer

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Standard JJ Abrahams formula. :(
 

emissary

Banned
Sorry for this I ran in to the thread rather than treading carefully.

Sincere apologies.

emissary.
 
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stevos

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Just got back from watching it at the local IMAX, and loved it.

Really wish they would do IMAX 2d, as the 3d was poor but other than that thumbs up for me.

Now want to go and rewatch the original version, as I haven't seen that in years and years.
 

emissary

Banned
Sorry lucasisking. My sincerest apologies. I hope you can forgive.

(I would remove the quote though in your reply.)
 

lucasisking

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Sorry lucasisking. My sincerest apologies. I hope you can forgive.

(I would remove the quote though in your reply.)
Sorry to lose it on you just then, but I'd been deliberately avoiding plot spoilers. The unfortunate irony is I was meant to see this yesterday, but got delayed until tomorrow. If all had gone to plan, it would have been no harm done!

I looked away quickly when i read it, but what I saw is something I half suspected anyway.

I guess its only a movie...
 

emissary

Banned
Again apologies. I will be more mindful in the future.

:)
 

stevos

Well-known Member
Not sure what spoiler there was, but if its what I suspect it was, then I wouldn't worry. It sounds major but really doesn't effect the movie that much, more a nod to startrek of old. There are plenty of twists to this that make it interesting.
 

Geoff_D

Distinguished Member
Sorry to lose it on you just then, but I'd been deliberately avoiding plot spoilers. The unfortunate irony is I was meant to see this yesterday, but got delayed until tomorrow. If all had gone to plan, it would have been no harm done!

I looked away quickly when i read it, but what I saw is something I half suspected anyway.

I guess its only a movie...
Well, I hope that the disappointment of _____ getting spoiled is the only disappointment you have with this movie, as it gets stupider to me every time I think about it.
 

lucasisking

Distinguished Member
Well, I hope that the disappointment of _____ getting spoiled is the only disappointment you have with this movie, as it gets stupider to me every time I think about it.
Lol. That's pretty much how I feel about Skyfall.

I'm going to recalibrate my expectations more towards a Star Wars movie rather than a Star Trek one. Will that help? :)
 

late8

Active Member
Well I honestly don't know where this has all come from.:mad:

I took the family and we all really enjoyed it. There was more Trek in it than the first movie. There were more things being delt with than the first movie and it was a fantastic ride.

Not only that I thought it looked and sounded stunning. Easy the best looking sci fi in a long long time.

I really still don't like Chekov, and Simon pegg as Scotty as the comedy is just not fitting right but apart from that its great Trek.

What are people expecting? Look at the original trek. It was bombastic and sometimes silly, with kirk in fighting and flirting etc.
The JJ Trek is closer to the original trek imo. TNG and the others to follow were serious Trek that ultimately went so far from the original it alienated many people, and became bogged down.

The film does have layers but the great thing IMO is its masked with eye candy so everyone can find something.

Look at Mark Kermodes review for the proper angle. This AVF review has it wrong IMO.
 

Chris McEneany

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Well I honestly don't know where this has all come from.:mad:

I took the family and we all really enjoyed it. There was more Trek in it than the first movie. There were more things being delt with than the first movie and it was a fantastic ride.

Not only that I thought it looked and sounded stunning. Easy the best looking sci fi in a long long time.

I really still don't like Chekov, and Simon pegg as Scotty as the comedy is just not fitting right but apart from that its great Trek.

What are people expecting? Look at the original trek. It was bombastic and sometimes silly, with kirk in fighting and flirting etc.
The JJ Trek is closer to the original trek imo. TNG and the others to follow were serious Trek that ultimately went so far from the original it alienated many people, and became bogged down.

The film does have layers but the great thing IMO is its masked with eye candy so everyone can find something.

Look at Mark Kermodes review for the proper angle. This AVF review has it wrong IMO.
Come again?

How's it wrong? I gave it - and I quote "a strong 7 out of 10" - and spoke at length about how much I enjoyed and recommended it.

I have my issues with the film, all duly noted. And as a confirmed long-time fan I am totally entitled to them. Just because it offers a great thrill-ride and is most certainly a visually spectacular feast doesn't mean that I have to ignore such things and just drool all over it with the OTT hype that many others have.

You'll find that even with films that I totally adore and go all fanboy over - and there's a helluva lot of them, believe me - I still point out elements that I don't like, or don't believe work too well.

Into Darkness is great fun indeed. I've actually seen it for a second time now. My concerns over certain elements still stand - in fact they have been reinforced and compounded - but I wouldn't hesitate in urging folks to go and see it for an instant. Popcorn entertainment. No more. No less.

What exactly do you expect from me? To ape another's "angle" so that it suits you a bit better?

Anyway, glad you enjoyed it. I did, too. Remember?

Cheers

Chris McEneany :devil:
 

Dans1210

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Just got back and i thought this movie was excellent! reminded me of the old star trek movies when my dad took me to see star trek 2! entertaining throughout, there were a few things that bugged me but overall one of the most entertaining films ive seen in a long time and it worked very well in 3d. I am a big starwars fan and loved the first 2 older star trek movies.
The chap who plays kirk is very good in this and cumberbatch is also excellent.
Effects are stunning and some of the best to date seen in a sci fi, try and catch it at the best theatre you can as this film really deserves it.
Made me feel like a kid again and you cant ask for more than that!
apologies for my bullet points but its late, must got to sleep!


After this im confident he can make a good star wars movie.

8 out of 10 for me.
 
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Graham

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Great review, thanks. I agree with all the second half of your spoiler section, I found that element a real let down. The film looked great but for me it really lacked the genuine emotional core that the original films / series had.
 

stevos

Well-known Member
On one of the bluray forums they talked about the fleet jumping to warp as one of the test discs for bass.

Whenever it happened in this, considering i watched it at my local IMAX, I couldn't help but feeling disappointed at my home setup and wishing I could turn it up that high. Maybe if my neighbours go on holiday and I notice them gone I could :cool:

Seriously can't wait for this on disc, its hopefully going to be a referrence quality DTS-HD MA track.

I also wish they did IMAX 2d, because I still hate wearing the glasses, even though I wear glasses some of the time when I can't be bothered with contact lens.
 

UMAR 3:16

Well-known Member
Saw, this, Great movie, excellent effects, but i agree with review. however would give it 7.5/10 :)
 

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