djdeejay
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Hi guys,
Id just like to say I bought a set of these so called 'white man scam' speakers people are referring to by "Stage" about a year and a half ago (October 2007) I got the ones with the 3 white cones in, floor standers which came with rear bookshelves too.
I too couldn't find any information on them and I was looking for some info again as i came to buy a new amp and I wondered what might match as i was running an old Yamaha but this has now gone down to my restaurant and im looking for an upgrade (or at least something with HDMI on)
Anyway the only things i could find were links to some suspicious threads which got locked on here.
So as a genuine low posters on AV forums and no the white man van trying to talk to product up id have to put straight the ultra square and sceptical and say these are not a scam - at least not a scam in the sense of paying for something and not receiving it.
Let me say now I am an mix engineer and producer - which actually makes you think of sound a bit differently to a hi-fi lover. For a start off theres no way id be paying thousands and thousands for speakers because i'll let you know now - when your paying £80 a square meter for speaker cable, in the studio we're using patch bay cables that cost a few pounds that the sound is travelling through.
Anyway thats for another thread - i appreciate what sounds good to my ears, funnily enough my favourite in ear headphones are Creative EP-130's - i even sold my £200 pair of shures because they were not as pleasing to listen to music with - so with that in mind perhaps that would stop anyone who prefers a different type of sound from loving these speakers.
To be fair ive been trained to listen to flat speakers - i spent 5 years of my life listened to music on NOTHING but uncoloured studio speakers which do not make any adjustments to sound like ALL hi-fi speakers do - its just dead. I got used to this, and like cutting sugar out of your diet when you do listen to something on hi-fi speakers it sounds bizarrely sharp and top end it (I refer to it as an ultra hi-fi sound) none of the top end speakers really sound natural at all, despite people referring to them as natural and uncolorued - its very far from that.
Back to these white van speakers then. They look fantastic, they sound as good as anything you could buy for £150. Perhaps Stage dont exist (to be fair mine had Canada written on the cardboard boxes) but they honestly sound pretty damn good. They've got 3 woofers and a sub in the sides! Yes thats ridiculous for the price - or maybe we're just over paying ridiculously for top end hi-fi...maybe thats the scam?
One of the speakers arrived and one of the woofers was blown, but "the white man van" replaced it for free. They've now worked flawlessly for two years. I think I may have paid over £200 actually because i got a centre speaker too.
Upon opening them the internal wiring was far too thin to be fair, but that could be easily replaced.
I dont really know what you class as a scam, even if some bloke in London is bashing these out - hes doing a pretty damn good job. incedently those Creative headphones i was on about - there are lots of Chinese fakes of them, and they really do sound horrendous, that is what i would call a scam - but I honestly don't think you could buy a set of speakers for £200 from Richer sounds or anywhere else that sound better than these - but they also look beautiful as well.
The bloke rekoned he'd set them up in a premiership footballers house and they were happy with them - probably a load of rubbish to be fair, i was sold with the white cones they fitted in with my black and white design of the room at the time. I partened them up a morduant short sub from richer sounds and i honestly dont think id ever have a reason to bother upgrading this speaker package - I can't image house it would sound much better without me spending a hell of a lot more money that I have.
Call me sceptical about speaker technology anyway though - it hasn't changed for years and years...if a speaker sounded amazing 10 years ago (such as a decent set of missions my old manager has do) theres never any reason to upgrade....TV's age and get better - until they find a new way of moving air, charging ridiculous amounts for "new speaker technolgoy" that doesn't exist is the biggest scam of all.
Make of that what you will - im one of the those happy people who gave geniune feedback for someone on ebay who probably doesn't exist anymore i just feel that the scepticsm can be a bit too much on the internet sometimes, although as i said - im not really sure what you were suggesting the scam would be - that the speakers wouldn't arrive (they did) or that they were not worth £150-£200 (id suggest they easily are - they could have been using components from those horrendous speakers Tannoy/Radio Shack used to sell in the 90's for £50 - now they really did sound like speakers the white van scam people would have sold!)
Thinking of getting an Onkyo 607 from Richer Sounds at the minute, if i do, or pick the Sony I will take some photos for everyone of a setup im very happy with thats cost me bugger all really! (Ive got a Samsung 40" 1080p which cost me £550 when they were £1200, some "white van speakers" which look like £1000 and probably sound like £400, Yamaha Amp which cost me £100, Apple TV which cost me £80 and has over 400 major HD files streamed directly to it, SKY HD which i got for free, and an Xbox Elite I managed to upgrade from and old xbox for without losing any money...all in all a setup which looks like it cost £6000 for under £1000!)
Id just like to say I bought a set of these so called 'white man scam' speakers people are referring to by "Stage" about a year and a half ago (October 2007) I got the ones with the 3 white cones in, floor standers which came with rear bookshelves too.
I too couldn't find any information on them and I was looking for some info again as i came to buy a new amp and I wondered what might match as i was running an old Yamaha but this has now gone down to my restaurant and im looking for an upgrade (or at least something with HDMI on)
Anyway the only things i could find were links to some suspicious threads which got locked on here.
So as a genuine low posters on AV forums and no the white man van trying to talk to product up id have to put straight the ultra square and sceptical and say these are not a scam - at least not a scam in the sense of paying for something and not receiving it.
Let me say now I am an mix engineer and producer - which actually makes you think of sound a bit differently to a hi-fi lover. For a start off theres no way id be paying thousands and thousands for speakers because i'll let you know now - when your paying £80 a square meter for speaker cable, in the studio we're using patch bay cables that cost a few pounds that the sound is travelling through.
Anyway thats for another thread - i appreciate what sounds good to my ears, funnily enough my favourite in ear headphones are Creative EP-130's - i even sold my £200 pair of shures because they were not as pleasing to listen to music with - so with that in mind perhaps that would stop anyone who prefers a different type of sound from loving these speakers.
To be fair ive been trained to listen to flat speakers - i spent 5 years of my life listened to music on NOTHING but uncoloured studio speakers which do not make any adjustments to sound like ALL hi-fi speakers do - its just dead. I got used to this, and like cutting sugar out of your diet when you do listen to something on hi-fi speakers it sounds bizarrely sharp and top end it (I refer to it as an ultra hi-fi sound) none of the top end speakers really sound natural at all, despite people referring to them as natural and uncolorued - its very far from that.
Back to these white van speakers then. They look fantastic, they sound as good as anything you could buy for £150. Perhaps Stage dont exist (to be fair mine had Canada written on the cardboard boxes) but they honestly sound pretty damn good. They've got 3 woofers and a sub in the sides! Yes thats ridiculous for the price - or maybe we're just over paying ridiculously for top end hi-fi...maybe thats the scam?
One of the speakers arrived and one of the woofers was blown, but "the white man van" replaced it for free. They've now worked flawlessly for two years. I think I may have paid over £200 actually because i got a centre speaker too.
Upon opening them the internal wiring was far too thin to be fair, but that could be easily replaced.
I dont really know what you class as a scam, even if some bloke in London is bashing these out - hes doing a pretty damn good job. incedently those Creative headphones i was on about - there are lots of Chinese fakes of them, and they really do sound horrendous, that is what i would call a scam - but I honestly don't think you could buy a set of speakers for £200 from Richer sounds or anywhere else that sound better than these - but they also look beautiful as well.
The bloke rekoned he'd set them up in a premiership footballers house and they were happy with them - probably a load of rubbish to be fair, i was sold with the white cones they fitted in with my black and white design of the room at the time. I partened them up a morduant short sub from richer sounds and i honestly dont think id ever have a reason to bother upgrading this speaker package - I can't image house it would sound much better without me spending a hell of a lot more money that I have.
Call me sceptical about speaker technology anyway though - it hasn't changed for years and years...if a speaker sounded amazing 10 years ago (such as a decent set of missions my old manager has do) theres never any reason to upgrade....TV's age and get better - until they find a new way of moving air, charging ridiculous amounts for "new speaker technolgoy" that doesn't exist is the biggest scam of all.
Make of that what you will - im one of the those happy people who gave geniune feedback for someone on ebay who probably doesn't exist anymore i just feel that the scepticsm can be a bit too much on the internet sometimes, although as i said - im not really sure what you were suggesting the scam would be - that the speakers wouldn't arrive (they did) or that they were not worth £150-£200 (id suggest they easily are - they could have been using components from those horrendous speakers Tannoy/Radio Shack used to sell in the 90's for £50 - now they really did sound like speakers the white van scam people would have sold!)
Thinking of getting an Onkyo 607 from Richer Sounds at the minute, if i do, or pick the Sony I will take some photos for everyone of a setup im very happy with thats cost me bugger all really! (Ive got a Samsung 40" 1080p which cost me £550 when they were £1200, some "white van speakers" which look like £1000 and probably sound like £400, Yamaha Amp which cost me £100, Apple TV which cost me £80 and has over 400 major HD files streamed directly to it, SKY HD which i got for free, and an Xbox Elite I managed to upgrade from and old xbox for without losing any money...all in all a setup which looks like it cost £6000 for under £1000!)