eviljohn2 said:I think "bringing balance to the force" means eradicating all traces of the dark side.
dsw182 said:C3PO needed to have his memory wiped because he can keep his mouth shut and would have told everyone.
It also puts a new light on the OT, as R2D2 is one of the only characters with a wide angle view of the whole situation.
You must have a lot of faith in GL to believe he had this grand vision in 70's that actually Kenobi actually fought with R2D2 a number of years previous!
The same goes for the plot weakness of Vader not 'feeling' Leia in ANH when interrogating her.
vonhosen said:I always thought it was supposed to be the story of Anakin's life overviewed by the droids in particular R2D2 (sure I read that somewhere)
Who was Syfo Dias? Sy(fo)dias...... Sidious?
Evil Engineer said:Surely the whole point is that balance is only brought to the force at the end of Episode VI when Vader sacrifices himself to save his son and kill the Emperor.
Hence the prophecy is forefilled, just not in the way Qui-Gon and Obi-wan were expecting.
I thought the "Legend of Darth Plaugeis" was pretty good as it suggests that either Plaugeis or Palpatine (who is obviously the Sith apprentice who killed Plaugeis) created Anakin and he was all part of the master plan to get rid of the Jedi from the start.
It explains why Palpatine is so interested in watching Anakin's progress at the end of episode 1. It also means that all that virgin birth stuff in Episode 1 wasn't just there to wind up Catholics.
Why not? In the message Leia records into R2-D2 she says,"General Kenobi, years ago you fought with my father in the clone wars......". She's obviously been briefed by her adopted father about Obi-Wan's presence on Tatooine otherwise she wouldn't be there. It therefore wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that she'd also been told that Obi-Wan would reconise one of the droids aboard her ship. This would make that particular droid the obvious choice for sending down to the surface with the Death Star plans.
Why would Vader "feel" Leia? Remember, he thinks his child died with Padme. You'll notice in the Episode III funeral procession that the body still has a pregnant belly. ie it's been dressed up to keep the birth(s) secret.
He doesn't "feel" Luke while he's trying to shoot him down in the Death Star trench, either. He only begins to suspect who Luke might be in the interval between New Hope and Empire.
In fact, Luke's presence only really becomes apparent once Yoda's training has begun which causes a "disturbance in the force". Leia hasn't had any Jedi training, so no disturbance.
If Luke can't figure out who Leia is until Obi-Wan drops a massive hint in the middle of Jedi, despite snogging his sister, what chance does Vader have ?
It therefore wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that she'd also been told that Obi-Wan would reconise one of the droids aboard her ship. This would make that particular droid the obvious choice for sending down to the surface with the Death Star plans.
JimmytheSaint said:Who was Syfo Dias? Sy(fo)dias...... Sidious?
mooro1973 said:I think he has motivation to bluff.
He went to Tatooine to keep an eye on Luke's progress, knowing one day Luke would come to him.
He doesn't tell Luke who his father is, so why should he tell him that D2 is a droid who saw everything (and therefore could tell Luke if Luke were to ask the right questions).
i thought the original star wars was always subtitles episdode 4 at the beginning when the text scrolls along??
eviljohn2 said:Obi-Wan was a general in the Clone Wars, the cartoons should cover that - it does make some sense in a war situation.
eviljohn2 said:Grievous is really a let down in the film compared to his menace and skill in the series.
Do you mean in ROTS or in Clone Wars?Tejstar said:I thought General Grievous was fantastic!
eviljohn2 said:The first "volume" of Clone Wars they were pretty much left to their own devices, obviously with the plot of the war to follow. I really enjoy them as they're clearly written/drawn by fans of the Star Wars universe so follow in the spirit of things with lots of nice touches.
The second volume (not out on DVD yet) is basically the prequel to ROTS and ends with *SPOILER**END SPOILER*Palpatine having been kidnapped by Grievous, several Jedi's being killed by Grievous; Yoda, Mace and some clone troopers losing the battle for Coruscant and summoning Kenobi and Skywalker back from the Outer-Rim as fast as they can. Naturally this is where ROTS starts. These episodes also include Anakin's introduction to the jedi order and the last of his tests.
Well worth watching in my opinion - Grievous is really a let down in the film compared to his menace and skill in the series.
eviljohn2 said:Do you mean in ROTS or in Clone Wars?
But you've been mulling it over for months.Tejstar said:RotS, haven't had a chance to see Clone Wars yet!
eviljohn2 said:But you've been mulling it over for months.