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Speakers for Yamaha RX-V530... What price range and which good options?

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by cribeiro, Jan 16, 2004.

  1. cribeiro

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    Hi there!
    I am thinking about an upgrade of speakers, since I am not completely satisfied with the entry level I have... after hearing another setups (why, oh, why should I have friends?!).
    I have a Yam530 receiver, and have been told that it is in the middle class of hifi, so I'd like to match it with proper speakers.
    The question is, how much do you think it would be necessary to invest, and which speakers would you suggest?
    I have been looking at the Wharfedale Diamond 8 series, liked the looks and specs, but didn't have yet time to audition (I am in Germany, and the nearest shop shop with Wharfedale is around 100 km from here...).
    Since I am in germany, I have also seen the Magnat Vector series (not Vector Needle), and they would be really cheap, but some people told me they are not at the level of my amp. Then, I saw the MAgnat Vintage 1 series, which actually have very nice looks.
    I know sound should be the first but today also the looks play a role...
    Any other suggestions?
    Thanks.
     
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    How much are you looking to spend?

    There's a couple of direct sales speaker manufactures in Germany that I know of Teufel and Nubert. In theory you get more for less by going direct and missing out the middleman profit and you get a home trial period as you say you're not near to a dealer.

    Also I think Heco have changed their range recently and you should be able to find them at half price. There's a fair bit of Heco on eBay Germany for what look like good prices. I've only noticed all this as I'm looking for surround speakers and the UK brands don't do many Dipoles.
     
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    Hi, thanks for the answer.
    Well, I knew about Nubert and Teufel, and it is possible that I will order them... The problem is that I will have to pay the sending costs in any case. I can't go to their shops for an audition, they are too far from here.
    About Heco... I have read in a german forum that they are the same as Magnat, it is the same company and, in the end, same products with different looks and names. I think it is called Recoton.
    The ideal case would be to get home all the speakers I have in mind, and try all of them for one week or so (... that means, I'd have to go for some banana plugs...). Then I could send back what I don't like, and get the money back. If I spent 100 euro in sending costs, it wouldn't be bad, regarding I'd be completely sure I got what I liked more... The problem is that I'd have to pay all the packages before, and that would be quite a lot of money.
    Also, I have been thinking that it would be enough to buy a couple of front speakers, since once I am satisfied with them, the others should behave similarly... Is that right?
     
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    They were/are both owned by Recoton but the Recoton parent company in the US went bust so they are now owned by someone else.

    Anyway I was wondering if you know what the German forums general idea of Magnat and Heco is? Are they cheap, good, bad, classy etc. I'm thinking about the Magnat THX system or maybe some Heco Diappolito's and I've tried reading the German forums myself but the language never was a strong point for me.

    The speaker prices look good but don't want to put in the effort if they aren't worth it.
     
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    Yes, I can tell you something about it, although I think it won't help much..., because there are divided opinions.
    Detractors say they are crap... Fans say they have unbeatable price/quality relation.
    I read quite a few threads in german forums about them, and I can go a little further with explanations:
    First of all, do not pay attention to retail prices. They just put unrealistic numbers, to make you feel you get a bargain... but anyway, the market prices are good/very good for what you get. Take also into account that the numbers they quote for frequency range and sensitivity are very "permisive"... As an example, the Vector 55 drops 5 dB down at 50 Hz, and from there down steadily, but they quote 22 Hz (at which they give 25 dB less than the flat part).
    You can take a look here:
    http://www.magnat.de/testberichte/home/pdf/vector55_stereo498.pdf
    To see the frequency response of the Vectors 55.
    The series "Cubus" cannot be classified as hifi. The Motion Series are entry hifi level, but nobody consider them as a good product, although still, they are extremely cheap. Then come the Vector, which are regarded as good speakers... Again, for the price they ask. These are midrange hifi. After that come top hifi level, with the Vintage series, which are regarded as very good, and I am thinking about getting some of these.
    Detractors argue that each of the series cannot compete with series from other manufacters (supposed to be in the same quality bracket)... The point is, these others lie in a more expensive price range. As an example, the Magnat Vector 77 (or 55) compared to the Canton LE 107 (or 109). They are supposed to be "equivalents", but everybody says the Canton are better... Well, they cost also much more...
    Something true about them is that they usually have a very strong midbass, and although they have depth and punch, they are lacking in precision.
    I cannot say anything special about the THX series, except that I like the looks and they are quite small. You can find reviews here
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    http://www.magnat.de/testberichte/heimkino/thx_select.php

    The materials they use are a mixture of Vintage (1 series) and Vector series: Vector Woofer, Vintage tweeter. I think the vintage should sound better and might be cheaper (because the certificate costs money...).
    I am actually looking for an upgrade of speakers, and I am in love with the looks of the Vintage 120 and 110. But I am also considering Wharfedale, Nubert and Teufel. I have a Yamaha receiver, so I have been told that bright speakers won't do well. Magnat are ideal in this case.
    I hope I didn't mix you up even more...
    If you ask me something in concrete, maybe I can do it in few words...
     

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