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Speakers for 6.1 / 7.1 set up

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by snowman, Feb 24, 2005.

  1. snowman

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    Hi guys

    after much deliberation, i have decided to go ahead and invest in my HT.
    The system will be 90% used for movie and TV watching - i have a standard Sky Digi Box and a Pioneer Divx player (cant remember the model number off hand - sorry) with progressive scan. Im going for the Sagem HD-D45 TV, which is HDMI capable.

    Now, what ive been searching for on these forums is some advice on a decent 6.1/7.1 amp, and my short list is down to the Denon 3805, Marantz 7400 or waiting for the HK AVR 435...

    Im looking for some suggestions regarding possible speakers to complement these amps. I realise that any suggestions are going to quite subjective, but at least ill have a point to start at. Im a bit anxious to get some suggestions as ive found myself in central London for the next 2 nights, so my chances of demoing any suggestions are significantly higher then at home (Dublin).

    My budget for the speakers is between £500-£700. Sorry i dont much more info... ANY suggestions would be great!! Thanks
     
  2. GavTNewbie

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    i was going to ask a similar question to this, that of which speakers should i audition for a Denon 3805 as well... does anyone have any ideas?

    snowman, what did you end up getting? would be interested to know...
     
  3. mhuk05

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    If you read throught the many "what speakers should I get" threads you'll see pretty much that most brands are suggested: Canton, M&K, B&W, Mordaunt Short, Quad etc.

    I don't have your amp but my speakers sound great: Mordaunt Short 906's, 905, 902 (and a Velodyne sub). Cost for new is less than £500 (exc. sub).
     
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    Hi there Snowman,

    Here is a fellow paddy who has learnt that tolerance is a little low to your question on the forums. It does not seem fair but it is a common question that you asked. There is only one real place in Dublin that sells quality speakers so we cannot really demo like you lucky folks in Britain can. Pick up a copy of What Hi-fi Sound and Vision and in the back they give fairly good reviews on speakers and I just picked up their ultimate guide edition which goes through everything you could possible look for so try to pick up a copy if you can and let us know how you get on, I am curious too! Good luck, Ronan
     
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    Please bare in mind that top notch hi-fi speakers don't make top notch AV speakers.
     
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    Aaah... someone after my own heart! I'm from the Netherlands, and I'm having a hard time here to find a retailer who makes that distinction in the first place. Being a film freak myself, I plan to build my own home cinema. Despite me explaining that I'm looking for a set of good speakers "for film", the usually only hear "I'm looking for a good set of speakers". Often followed by demoing the set THEY like with an SACD, or DVD-A. That's nice, but that is not what I'm going to use it for. Call me old-fashioned, but for my music I have a separate kit (It's even in a different room) with TWO speakers and never the twain shall meet.

    So: the only thing I have at the moment is a Denon DVD-2910 and for the rest I'm wide open to suggestions. Since this is the Speakers forum it stands to reason I would like advice on AV speakers: what do you consider top notch AV speakers (I plan to go for a 7.1 setup)? I need to fill a big room (155 cubic metres/approx. 5500 cub. ft) so I guess I need lots of power. Perhaps it's also of interest to know that the house is made of wood (though the floors are concrete).

    But any other advice on amps, beamers, etc. is also more than welcome. My DVD player has an HDMI connector, and if I have read the signs correctly, that's the way to go, so please bear that in mind for any advice on amps or projectors. I should add that I have about 20.000 euro left to spend (I believe that's about 14.000 pound) for the whole package.
    Thanks in advance,

    Kax
     
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    Thankx Kax.....i'm as much into 2 channel as i am multi channel, and as impressive as some 5.1 music is, i prefer to stick to a really good pair of hi-fi speakers.
    I have heard a £2000 pair of well branded hi-fi speakers walked over by AV speakers at half the price. I haven't heard stupidly expensive stuff, but so far i've not heard anything sound equally good with both. Maybe it's different when you spend tens of thousands but for most mortals seeking the best of both, it doesn't exist in our price range.
    Hi-fi speakers are designed for a primary purpose. As are AV speakers. After hearing what i have heard, and now having what i have, i would never go back to using hi-fi speakers for AV. For 5.1 music, yes. But not for movies.
     
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    As a starter for 10, if it's of any help I'm using Castle Compacts and they are superb with my Denon kit. I decided to go a little creative and move towards a more 'integrated' system by replacing the sat fronts with Castle Richmond 3i's which are slightly larger (great for 2ch) but don't beat down the other channels.

    The Castles are beautiful. The image is bright and warm. For weeks I've just been listening to all of my music in 2ch and have been blown away; I literally spend all of my time listening to music (have become a hermit). Today I got my Sub running OMG :eek: unbelievable.. you have to realise I have a converted cellar which is modest in size (12ftx12ftx6.7ft ish) and the sub shakes the floor (even though it's solid concrete!). I was blown away in 6ch mode...

    So, as Denon has been mentioned I thought my experiences would be useful. The Castle Compacts will cost 1000GBP; if you step up the fronts as I did then you're looking at 1150GBP (worth the extra imho) I can't emphasise enough how good this system is. If you live in a large mansion with open plan rooms the size of a gymnasium then forget it and do what everyone else does and buy large speakers.... but if you live in relatively normal living accomodation, as most of us do, then you won't be disspaointed this discreet but powerful system.

    Oh.. and by the way Castle hand make their cabinets (old men with traditional skills making things they like)...

    Good luck!
     
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    If you were asking me Kax, i know i'm a little biased here, but after hearing what the M&K K series could do i went a few ranges up and bought the 750 series. After being so impressed with those and having had the chance to change up to the reference 150's, M&K is a very underrated force when it comes to AV speaker setups. I have heard their tiny Xenon series fill a room 5m x 8m easily. Their is an appreciable difference between their ranges and enough combinations to suit anyone and any situation. Their wide dispersion, amazing dynamics and detail level means they MUST be on anyones shortlist. DON'T buy any AV package until you've heard them!! I can't recommend them enough. And i've heard no hi-fi speakers compete for AV purposes, including the Kef Reference package i used to own. If you hear M&K and don't like them, fair enough. But if you've heard them and not been impressed, they weren't set up correctly.
     
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    Thanks Helicon,

    well, you certainly got my attention on the M&K's! Especially since I see you have the DSP-Z9, which is on my shortlist for amps. Happy with it?
    If I can find the time I'm going to try to find more info on the M&K's this week. Hope there's a dealer in the Netherlands.
    Thanks again,

    Kax
     
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    Hi digisocialist,

    sorry for the late Re: we had some friends over this weekend.
    Thanks for your input. Well, it's not that extreme, but the room I'm going to use for my Home Theater is about 5500 cubic feet (155 cubic metres), with a cathedral ceiling at just over 6 metres (about 20 ft.) so at the risk of sounding snobbish, I do think I need something bigger, but I'm not completely hung up on this. Should a pair of Castles come by, I will certainly give them a try. ;-)
    Keep the suggestions coming!
    Grtz,

    Kax
     
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    There really is no need for large speakers - if you haven't heard a set of M&K's, get down to your local dealer and hear what they can do. I used to have a very large pair of front speakers from a very well know British speaker manufacturer costing £4000/pair....i changed to the LCR750THX costing £950/pair and much smaller and they did a better job with AV and play at reference level if you need them to.
    And as for AV amplifiers, any AV amp about £2000 and up is going to be excellent. Just pick the one that does what you want it to.
     
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    Thanks Helicon, that's a clear Re:
    I did some surfing on M&K, but I'm afraid the nearest dealer is in Belgium (I'm in the Netherlands).That sort of puts the M&K's on the back burner.:-((
    Should I not be able to find anything I like, maybe I will seek them out. However, your post was not in vain, because the letters THX at the end of your LCR's type number gave me an idea: why not surf to the THX site? And suddenly I have a list of all THX certified equipment around! Should be useful (Ultra 2 looks good, at least on paper).
    So, thanks again

    Kax
     

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