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Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by bob007, Jan 19, 2003.

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  1. All speakers set to small - xover above 81Hz

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  2. All speakers set to small - xover 80Hz or below

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  3. All speakers large - LFE sent to Mains + Sub

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  4. All speakers large - LFE sent to Sub Only

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  5. Centre small - Mains large - LFE Mains + Sub - Rears small

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  6. Centre small - Mains large - LFE Mains + Sub - Rears Large

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  7. Centre small - Mains large - LFE Sub Only - Rears small

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  8. Centre small - Mains large - LFE Sub Only - Rears large

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  9. Centre small - Mains large - Rears large - No sub

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  10. All speakers large - No sub

    33 vote(s)
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  1. bob007

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    Not everyone likes to get in to a hot debate about their preferences on settings etc, so you don't have to reply on here, just a vote will do. :)

    Only had 10 options hopefully I have listed the most common options.

    Don't think this one has been done before.
     
  2. CarlB

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    Bob,

    My system is uses the THX 80Hz crossover, but I wasn't sure whether to vote in 80Hz and above, or 80Hz and below.

    Perhaps change the options to 'above 80Hz' and '80Hz and below'
     
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    all small (amp cuts off below 100hz) with sub taking everything below 100hz. sorry but there wasn't an option for 100hz.

    what's this above and below 80hz business?
     
  4. bob007

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    Can see where the confusion would lie, will get it sorted.


    James if your xover is 100Hz then option 1 would be your selection, more interested in speaker settings not the actual values of the xovers. ;)
     
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    ah that makes more sense now cheers.
     
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    So, what do I vote if my xover is set to exactly 81 Hz... :D :devil:
     
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    Mine is a sub/sat system, plus an extra sub for LFE.

    So one of the subs gets bass for the 'large' speakers, the other sub gets LFE.

    Voted for 'speakers large, LFE only to sub'.
     
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    Having a bit of a slapdash system with no sub, only my front speakers (Mission 701'ss) are set to large. Centre and rears are small, and subsequently set to be on the amp (Denon 1802).
     
  9. bob007

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    Sorry three's no option for you, tried to get the most common settings, it was hard when only 10 options available.

    If there are more posts (say 1/2 dozen) from members that can't vote as they have less common settings then I will set up another poll to cover them.
     
  10. General Skanky

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    Blimey, I must have missed a thread or two. I'm set all to large with bass to sub + main.

    I am actually surprised at the amount of people routing bass to subs below 80Hz.

    I've tried them all, a lot, and knew (?) I had it right. But I'm not changing again.

    We need Duncan Wardle in on this one. :D
     
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    Have a fairly cheap amp so no choice in crossover frequency- stuck at 90. I'd go down at least another 10 hz otherwise
     
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    I use a high-level sub connection all the time so send the LFE to the front channels. I guess the "All speakers large - LFE sent to Mains + Sub" option is the one for me. :)

    MuFu.
     
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    Where's the no centre option eh!?
     
  14. bob007

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    This will be in my next poll *Why does my sound system sound crap, is it because* :p :D
     
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    A variable crossover frequency isn't just a matter of pricing- take Yamahas AZ-1 or the Marantz SR 9200. Both don't offer this option.

    Sony's 780 QS has variable crossover for each front, rear and center, you can chose between 40 and 200Hz in steps of 10Hz...

    Most AV manufacturers just don't don't care about bass management...
     
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    my settings weren't there. I have:

    Centre large - Mains large - LFE Mains + Sub - Rears small

    On my preamp (Sony TA-E9000es) setting the center to small sends the center's lower end to the Mains Large. It muddies the focus of the center.

    marc;)
     
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    [deleted - i worked out the answer to my question]
     
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    Nice one bob007, that little comment cheered me up no end:D :laugh: :rotfl:
     
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    30 hours into my first kit (Yamaha HTR-5540RDS and Mission 700 6-Pack) and I've set all speakers to small so crossover is fixed at 90Hz on the receiver. I'm still experimenting with routing bass to both sub+mains or just to sub (I guess I should route just to sub as Mission 70s go down to 85Hz).

    My sub has a knob at the back to adjust crossover as well, but I'm guessing this is for when you use the sub as an interconnect between the receiver and the speakers, and not for when you use a dedicated subwoofer connection....
     
  20. bob007

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    IMO sending LF to sub only should give you the best results.

    If you have selected speakers "small" and LF to "sub" and you are connected via low level, I think most will agree the subs xover should be set to "max". ;)
     
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    I did that today :)
    Have those settings and I am indeed using the dedicated subwoofer connection to 'low level' (which is a 2-phono connection so I'm having to use the Y-adapter that Mission supplied with the sub) :)

    However, I don't understand why the crossover knob on the sub would do anything?? :confused: I thought nothing was fed back into the receiver when you use the low level connection, only the high level connection?? :confused: I can't adjust crossover on the receiver. Please explain Bob! I'm confused! :(
     
  22. bob007

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    Even though the reciever is controling the xover (in your case 90Hz) you still have to set the subs xover for it to produce the said frequencies. In these cases (speakers set to small) setting the subs xover to max is often recommended.

    The 90Hz is not a brickwall frequency and frequencies higher than 90Hz will get through, so selecting max on the subs xover ensures those frequencies that do get through will be heard.

    If you selected 50Hz on the subs xover and the receivers xover was 90Hz only frequencies up to 50Hz would be produced.

    This is the way I understand it, only have a basic understanding myself. ;)

    Somebody please feel free to correct me if I am on the wrong track.
     
  23. Squirrel God

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    Thanks Bob - you're a star :)

    Mission only gave me a very sparse leaflet with the sub, but they rather cheekily call it an owner's manual just the same :D

    I have just checked in there and it says that everything that comes through the sub, passes through the crossover first.

    The relevance of this never clicked in my mind before, but I fully understand it now - thanks mate :)

    I had left the xover on the sub set to midway which is 100Hz so I guess I wasn't missing out. Just in case, I have now set it to max., which is 150Hz :)
     
  24. bob007

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    A pleasure mate. ;)

    DTS should sound 10 times better now. :laugh:
     
  25. Squirrel God

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    :rotfl: It just sounds 6dB louder to me ;) :D
     
  26. Sgt.Colon

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    I voted for option 4 because that's what it said to set them to in my Amp instructions :)
     
  27. Squirrel God

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    How do the people who wrote your amp instructions know what speakers you have? :p

    You've got the Mission FS2's haven't you? And you've set them to large?
     
  28. Sgt.Colon

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    I'm going to be nice to you today cos it's your birthday :p

    I don't know Squirrel I was just doing what it said in the book. How am I to know if it right or wrong? :confused: Stop picking on me :eek: :D
     
  29. Squirrel God

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    I'm not! :mad: :D

    I know that the NXT panels are a different type of speaker so maybe they have to be set to large in order to drive those sorts of units - I don't know, but I'm sure someone else will :D

    It just struck me that the FS2's are small speakers and usually speakers are set to large when they have their own built-in subwoofer (floorstanders etc).

    Ho hum, Bob'll sort ya out :D
     
  30. Sgt.Colon

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    Bob? :D :hiya:
     

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