Question Speaker placement and what speakers

[pete1866]

Hi hopefully you can see on my basic sketch my room layout.
I have just bought a denon avr 3300w amp and I am running it with the canton cd1 package I bought from these forums a long time ago.
I would like to upgrade to something better, budget of £1500
It will be used for 90% watching movies, 10% music.
It has to be easy on the eye to please the missus so I have been looking at the
Monitor audio bronze 5 package in American walnut, or the Q acoustic 3050 package
Would the floorstanders work ok in that room?
How could I sort the rears out , the monitor fx I thought might work better but one would have to be more or less behind me and one on the side wall, would that work?
Any advice appreciated as I am bit new to this
Regards Pete
PS the 3.4 metres measurement is right, not sketched very well

 

[PSM1]

Corner TV placement is always hard to get a decent surround sound and your layout seems to make that even harder. The surround left is completely in the wrong position and not going to give a good surround experience FX speaker or not. The front right is also not adding any width to front soundstage where it is but is significantly further forward compared to the left which is not great either, it would be better the other side of the fireplace nearer the TV. This would then negate the need for a centre since it is not going to be adding much if anything especially since I assume it is placed in the AV cabinet which will be far from ideal especially for a larger centre like the Bronze.
Could the TV not go on wall D? Even better would be to put the TV on wall B where your sofa is and the sofa on wall D.
If the TV can not be moved then I would say do not get floorstanders as you just do not have space for them. Instead buy some good quality satellite speakers like the B&W M1s or Monitor Audio Radius and have them either side of the TV (maybe even remove the centre as it really is not adding much with the fronts so close the TV). For rear speakers you could try 2 FX speakers on wall B behind the sofa and about 30cm above ear level which will be a better compromise than your current one.

 

[pete1866]

Hi thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately right front will not go near the tv, as there is no room and the tv cannot be moved.
It's 65 " and I don't want it on the wall and we like it where it is, do that's not an option.
With having the fx behind me on same wall I thought they might be too close together, but I would be happy to put them on the wall if it would work
The amp is an intelligent one and can sort out a few problems, not sure this layout though!
I have wooden flooring down as well to add to the mix

 

[pete1866]

Now thinking about the monitor audio bronze 2 speaker package
Would the fx speakers work ok if I put them 1 metre apart behind me ?

 

[pete1866]

Corner TV placement is always hard to get a decent surround sound and your layout seems to make that even harder. The surround left is completely in the wrong position and not going to give a good surround experience FX speaker or not. The front right is also not adding any width to front soundstage where it is but is significantly further forward compared to the left which is not great either, it would be better the other side of the fireplace nearer the TV. This would then negate the need for a centre since it is not going to be adding much if anything especially since I assume it is placed in the AV cabinet which will be far from ideal especially for a larger centre like the Bronze.
Could the TV not go on wall D? Even better would be to put the TV on wall B where your sofa is and the sofa on wall D.
If the TV can not be moved then I would say do not get floorstanders as you just do not have space for them. Instead buy some good quality satellite speakers like the B&W M1s or Monitor Audio Radius and have them either side of the TV (maybe even remove the centre as it really is not adding much with the fronts so close the TV). For rear speakers you could try 2 FX speakers on wall B behind the sofa and about 30cm above ear level which will be a better compromise than your current one.

Thanks for reply I meant to quote you in my reply earlier

 

[PSM1]

1m apart is not ideal but will work better than current proposal. Shame can not move TV but surely it will be no closer to you on wall D than current location.
Instead of getting package but a pair of bronze 2 and pair of fx then get a bk electronics sub. Will end up cheaper and a better sub too.

 

[pete1866]

1m apart is not ideal but will work better than current proposal. Shame can not move TV but surely it will be no closer to you on wall D than current location.
Instead of getting package but a pair of bronze 2 and pair of fx then get a bk electronics sub. Will end up cheaper and a better sub too.

Tv would be .8m nearer if on the wall and I have things there I couldn't move.
Yes I've read good things about a bk sub, I could get a package for speakers and sub of £800
Could I not put one fx over my right should and the other in the opposite corner, over my left shoulder?

 

[PSM1]

Leave right surround where it is and put left surround in same position on other side of settee.

 

[pete1866]

Leave right surround where it is and put left surround in same position on other side of settee.

Calling the one over my shoulder the right one, would mean other one a metre away near my left shoulder due to the patio doors.
Is that what you meant

 

[PSM1]

That is correct.

 

[pete1866]

That is correct.

Thanks for your replies

 

[Blupetros]

Move the TV to wall D opposite the settee (no necessarily on the wall), I don't see why it would be any closer than it is at the moment. Then you would be facing the screen (probably better picture) and speaker placement would be easier. Simples!

 

[pete1866]

Move the TV to wall D opposite the settee (no necessarily on the wall), I don't see why it would be any closer than it is at the moment. Then you would be facing the screen (probably better picture) and speaker placement would be easier. Simples!

We like the tv where it is, so won't be moving it.
The rears are the biggest problem I have