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Speaker Grills

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by Queen of Hearts, Mar 16, 2003.

  1. Queen of Hearts

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    Just out of interest do you leave yours on or have you removed them!
    Does it affect the sound any?
    Mine by the way are well and truly naked just the way nature intended :D
     
  2. nathan_silly

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    Leave em on, expensive mistake if I pierce em! Doubt it makes much difference, if any.

    My standmounters do look fab w/o the grille- real wood veneer in red cherry. Luvly!:D
     
  3. Dronach

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    Mine are left on. It shouldn't make any difference to the sound - something like "acoustically transparent" is used to describe the material used.
     
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    Been messing about comparing a lot of 44kHz vs. 96kHz vs. 192kHz upsampled/native material recently. At higher resolutions is reasonably obvious with certain excerpts that the grilles on these speakers (B&W 600 s3) are not totally transparent. It is most apparent at low levels (obviously). I leave them off apart from when we're knockin' back the beers. :)

    I'm sure most higher-end/less image-centric kit does not have the same problem.

    MuFu.

    Edit - sp.
     
  5. Gryphon

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    Budget speakers might sound better with the grills off, think they use cheap cloth so the sound could be affected.

    I prefer the look of mine with the grills off, makes them look more expensive too. :)

    y=x3? That's odd. :confused:
     
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    Acoustically transparent cloth is all well and good but what about the solid mesh of plastic that the cloth is fastened too? Surely this abundance of plastic is not acoustically transparent as well :rolleyes:. That said, I leave mine on because I can't get the damn things off :(.
     
  7. MuFu

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    Well most plastic frames have an oraphice larger than the dispersion envelope of the HF driver and porting for low frequencies that supposedly doesn't interfere due to wavelength considerations. I think the cloth itself is the problem in most cases.

    MuFu.
     
  8. uncle eric

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    In general, there is no grill like no grill.
    However, some grills actually alter sonic character by design rather than accident.
     
  9. uncle eric

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    At the "No Grill" shop
     
  10. Queen of Hearts

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    I agree ;)
    God intended the speaker to be clearly seen!
    There is surely no compromise :devil:
    I like you Uncle Eric, has anyone ever told you your avatar looks like Peter Cushin? Very dishy :kisses:
     
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    I've gotten bacon and sausages all over my speakers- so much for this grille help! :D
     
  12. Chivalry

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    all my grills are packed away neatly in a box in the attic :0) (how else can i lei my speakers on their backs and place a football on the large driver and watch it bounce about in time to the music?) jk... hehe
     
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    Perhaps you should watch Howard Stern's Private Parts for a better use for a speaker with the grill off.:devil:
     
  14. Banni

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    Grills make a reasonable child protection system. I can clean the cloth easier then the woven kevlar. :D

    I try to :lesson: my daughter not to touch them, but hey, she's only 1.

    Sometimes I take them off in the evening, like em better that way.
     
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    99.9% my grills stay on mainly for dust protection for the woofer and tweeter.
     
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    I recall that Uncle Eric's M&K 2510P speakers sounded perceptibly better with the grills off; at £1400 per speaker these are not exactly budget.
     
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    Before my current B&W 805s,I ran a stereo system with Linn Keltiks triamped via Krells.....these were definitely not budget speakers and definitely sound better minus the covers(even Linn would agree with that).
    Certainly most,if not all of the speakers I've used/listened to incl things like the Wilson System V do sound better without the covers in place.
    Uncle eric does have a good point that some are better with the grills in place,esp some of the brasher AV offerings.
     
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    I would suggest if you have a large extended family such as I have with lots of little ones running around and getting themselves into mischief, then leave the grills on, they are bland and very uninteresting to prying fingers and other sharp objects :nono:
    Take the grills off at your peril :eek:
     
  19. tomson

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    Mine stay on ever since my cat sank his claws into the bass driver :mad:

    It was one of those slo-mo moments
     
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    Ouch :eek:
    I did have a similar experience when my little one decided to push my lovely solid silver parker pen through the driver of one of my (then) Tannoy floorstanders :mad:
    Thats kids for you :rolleyes:
    Grills on now :smoke:
     
  21. Hobgoblin

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    Mine don't have grilles so the question is academic
     
  22. Matt F

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    Well, you say that but mine came without grilles and yet I had to make some up to protect them from (mainly) my one year old.

    Matt.
     
  23. CounterWhine

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    My Dynaudios have mounting points for the grills on the back of each 'speaker. I think that's a pretty good indication that Dynaudio prefer them off. I know I do.

    D.
     
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    I leave mine off, main reason being to ensure even colouring of the wood as it darkens with age.
     
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    That's a very valid reason if you live in a South facing house as two tone wood finishes will be that much harder to sell
     
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    Anybody run their Gallo NM's w/o the "grills"? The material used for them is surely not acoustically transparent being very stiff. I can't get them off or even rotate them, in order to line up the AG logo.

    I too probably can't afford to have them "off" with a one year old running around - although she doesn't actually seem that inclined to play with my speakers/other gear. Remote controls and phones are more her kind of thing.
     
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    The thought of one of the kids innocently attacking one of my speakers is just too much to bear, on for me :devil:
     
  28. Dronach

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    Just to say you can run the Gallo's without the grill. The way I found to do this was to move furniture around for my dear wife and have to rearrange the speakers, wires off etc and then when you're not looking they roll off and fall on the floor. The grills pop out really easily at this point. When I wired everything back up to see if the speaker still worked (with shaking hands) I didn't really care what it sounded like just that a sound came out. And then I put the grill back on. Luckily those Gallos are robust little beastie balls.:clap:
     

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