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speaker cable and rear speakers positioning

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by Dumfy, Oct 2, 2001.

  1. Dumfy

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    Hi,

    I'll be installing the KEF "eggs" into my system soon and was wondering if anyone had a good cable to recommend. I'll need about 30M so nothing way expensive please.

    In regards positioning of the rear speakers, is it best to have them behind you at ear level or higher up and firing down at you? I have the option to do both but am unsure of the best way to go.<br /> <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">
     
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    My KEF 60s rears, v. similair are behind and about 1 m above firing acroos the room.<br />QED or cable talk are good standard cables. £2-£3 a metre. I use QED Quodos. It's ok.
     
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    Which one to use, some of the cables are specified Biwire. What is ghe difference between normal and Biwire.

    Cheers
     
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    Dumfy,

    I've just installed mine. I have them just above ear level and pointing in the direction of the opposite front corner speaker (diagonaly), sound fine to me.

    I do find that the rear level output needs some attention when setting up, they can be quite quiet.

    One thing I should warn you about though, the wall mounting method (if this is what you are using) is not good. The speakers have a tendancy to droop, I have invented a fix, but I'm very dissapointed with this aspect of the speakers, they were not cheap!

    db

    Oh, I used Gale cable at 1.75 a metre, sounds fine to me.
     
  5. Dumfy

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    Hi Guys,

    Thanks for the replies and the help.

    Asad, normal speaker cable has one pair of conductors along it's length. Bi-wire has two pairs. Some speakers can be bi-wired using this cable. This means that each speaker will have four terminals on it - two red ("positive") and two black ("negative")

    The idea being that the tweeters and woofers of the speaker can be driven separately which is supposed to improve sound quality.

    Hope this helps, if not, post back a reply.

    :)
     
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    Thanks Mark for the explanation.
    I have just bought M73s(arrived today), haven't open the boxes yet as I am waiting for the delivery of my receiver. I am not sure if M73 have 4 terminals. So If they have then is it must for me to buy Biwire. I am thinking of buying the standard cable(any recommendation) as they are cheap.

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    I would suggest you leave bi-wiring for a future upgrade it will double your cable cost and at best will only give you a small improvement on using normal cable. That's not to say it's not worthwhile just that it's the sort of upgrade that you do when you're trying to tweak your system to get the very best out of it. It's also system dependent and you may not notice any difference in which case you will be left with a bad case of 'buyers remorse'. If you have 4 terminals/binding posts on the back of the speaker there should be a shorting link between the 2 red posts and between the 2 black posts (NOT the red to the black!!!)to electically connect them together to allow you to use standard cable.
     
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    Can you acutally bi-wire the eggs?

    Anyhow, I rekon for the rears some standard speaker cable (2.5mm2 or 4mm2) from the handymart or electronic store will do in your setup, no need to waste too much money on that.
    It is recommended to use the same length for both even the distance is not exactly the same.
     
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    I had standard cable connecting my "rears" :eek: they where the same speakers and stands as the fronts, but the sound was much worst...

    I replaced with Cable Talk 3.1 and now they sound like the fronts, plus I lowered the calibration level 3 dbs...

    So it does make a lot of diference because of the lenght of wire...
     
  10. Dumfy

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    Hi Asad

    Glad you replied.

    I go along with exactly what Gary replied with above. If your new speakers do have 4 terminals, there's no need at all to bi-wire. Just use the normal 2 way cable and as Gary says, tweak later with bi-wiring when you're more confident. Make sure that the news speakers have the shorting bars between the terminals on the back - ie - the positives are linked together and the blacks. If they're brand new, they will be.

    Any more questions, please post.

    ;)
     
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    should've posted this with the last one to Asad. Must be getting senile already.

    The "Eggs" can't be bi-wired. There's only one set of terminals on the back.

    BTW ordered mine today and should be here next week. The guy in the shop did me a deal on QED Qudos cable so have gone with that.

    While I think of it. John Lewis are price matching Internet prices up until 20th Oct. Just saved myself £500 on a Philips 36" TV plus you still get their 5 year guarantee.

    I'm off for a beer to celebrate!!

    :)
     
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    Lowrider

    With such an impressive improvement using CableTalk 3.1 try CableTalk Concert 2.1. It gives a much cleaner and open treble and a deeper more controlled bass. I've tried a lot of other people's recommendations on speaker cable and so far have always come back to the Concert. At less than a tenner a metre it's pretty good value for money.
     
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    Hi Mark,

    I am also thinking of buying the philips Wide Screen TV either 32 or 36.
    Which one did u buy and do u mind elling us he price u paid at J.Lewis.

    Cheers
     
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    Asad,

    I purchased the 36" Philips (36PW9525) from J.Lewis here in Edinburgh. They sold it for £1395. This was the price that www.qed-uk.com were asking on the Net and JL price-matched it. Take a print out of the QED web page with the TV on it and include the fact that it comes with the cabinet and free delivery. That's all the details they needed off me and my set arrives Tuesday.

    Good Luck ;)
     
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    Thanks Gary,

    I might try them for the front and center one of this days...
     
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    Hi,

    Thanks to the people who helped me understand the differenc between Bowire or normal wire. My distance from the Amp to the rear speakers is about 2X14m. I really don't want to spend too much money on the wire, hence Can someone suggest the cheapest wire I can get away. A guy at my local Home Cinema shop said that 42 strands or 74 strands would be more than adequate.
    Are these good cables?

    Also what is the best way of connecting the rear speakers to the wall in the corners of my living room.
    Any recommendation will be mch appreciated.

    Cheers
     

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