Sourdough/bread making

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  1. busterbenny2001

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    So I’m having a go at home baking some 100% organic sourdough.
    Using the bakers apprentice as a guide.

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    Ordered a couple of baskets online and my starter or mother is ready to use tomorrow so next step is 2 day San Francisco sourdough.

    Any tips anyone made any successful attempts at sourdough?
     
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    Firm starter has been made from the mother, now proving overnight before making the final dough, 6 days prep so far hope the loaf is worth it!!

    At least the mother starter is always ready now just needs feeding every few days.

    Will update tomorrow hopefully with a half decent looking loaf!
     
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    Started at 7 and 5 hours later 4 loaves on final proof

    2 San Fancisco sourdough in the bannetons and 2 cheddar potato and onion torpedos !!

    Long process but looking forward to end result this evening
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    Need smellovision for this one just,out of the oven the aroma of cheese caramelised onion and yeasty goodness is a killer won’t be long until I slice one of these open

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    Look good - been making sourdough loaves for a bit now.

    Tend to bung some starter and flour in a bowl and leave overnight then add more flour and salt then knead in the morning and leave in proving basket while am at work - bung in the oven when I get home and done.

    Pretty simple once you have the starter going to just feed it every couple of days.
     
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    The future is definitely proving overnight, retarding in the fridge then baking in the morning.

    First 100% sourdough came out lovely looking we will try it this evening, hopefully will get this perfected before making a big wood fired oven outside to bake all this lovely bread in :)

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    I think the only real test is for you to post some out to us pronto :thumbsup:
     
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    It will be delicious - sourdough is a revelation for me not sure I will eat any other sort of bread ever again. Haven't for months.

    Making pizzas I switch it up between sourdough and normal pizza dough, can make normal pizza dough and get it sorted in a few hours. Sourdough takes a little more planning. Sourdough is the tastiest though.

    I believe sourdough is also better for digestion etc :) Most normal shop bought bread starts my ibs to flare up not so with sourdough!

    Why is sourdough bread the healthiest bread?
     
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    You were not wrong it really was something special, although I own a bakery we don’t really do a lot of sourdough, more standard loaves but as I enjoy baking it’s a good challenge, next on the list is chilli and cheese, and also walnut and blue cheese.
     
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    I can't have yeast anymore so have tried sourdough from Waitrose, they do one which has no added yeast at all, it's a bit drier than normal bread, but as I can't have that kind of bread anymore, it's not too bad. It's a lot nicer than rye bread anyway.

    Yeast free bread is a very rare thing to find!
     
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    The round loaves above are zero yeast pure sourdough but the batards with cheese are a hybrid using the starter and also some dried yeast, both good flavour but think I’d prefer more sour think this can be achieved with a bit of sugar for the enzymes to feed on.

    Avoiding yeast must be hard it’s on trust that the baker hasn’t added some yeast to give them a helping hand.

    Time to roll sleeves up Greg get messy !
     
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    My starter and my loaf for tomorrow - looking very healthy :)

    Also a random pic 5 mins walk from my house and pretty awesome earlier
     

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    I'm going to have to try sourdough sometime.
    How do you start it off and use/keep it?
     
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    Looking good, and lovely view, looks very similar to my local area around Dartmoor except a bit greener :)
     
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    I’ll put up my recipe later basically flour and water or in my recent recipe pineapple juice apparently stops a couple of nasties appearing, mixed in a container left to brew over a few days adding a little water and flour to feed then within 8 days you have created your starter or mother which then goes in a jar in fridge and gets fed and used as required pretty simple really for a great tasting product !
     
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    I use the Paul Hollywood starter recipe from HERE with an apple out of my garden works great
     
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    Tonight’s testers just made rested and now into the fridge to see what happens in the morning.
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    Basic sourdough 100% wild yeast and one with the addition of walnuts cashew nuts and some Stilton.

    Hopefully develops overnight and ready to bake first thing.
     
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    This mornings effort after proofing overnight got a bit stuck to the bannetons, so work in progress maybe more flour needed still smell lovely though and I’m sure will taste good later

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    Rye sourdough this morning the taste is fantastic got some homemade pastrami to eat with this one later,if the bread lasts that long !

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    Looks great!

    Currently, M&S White/Rye Sourdough is my fave bread at the moment.

    £2 a pop though. Wonder how that compares to the cost of make your own....
     
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    I’d guess likely around 4 times the cost really it’s only flour and water, just time and effort but worth it and rewarding when it goes right !
     
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    Quick question.
    I make my starter dough, 500g, half it and top it back up to 500g etc.
    How much of this do I use per loaf?
    Say I was making a 500g loaf, do I use half the starter or less/more?
     
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    For sanfransisco style sourdough I use about 200g of starter to Make 2 small ish loaves around 600g per loaf

    If you build up too much starter you can reduce it just keep a small amount,lots say ditch it but I’m looking for recipie ideas for the waste Unfed starter, trying pancakes tomorrow!
     
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    Been reading up on low impact sourdough where you hardly need to knead at all !,

    So got a batch mixed and proving overnight gone for a 50 50 white with seeded whole meal at 60% hydration, it’s going to sit overnight and hopefully be workable in the morning.

    Also found a recipie for buttermilk pancakes and waffles out of the waste starter so got a sponge going overnight for them too good fun this sourdough stuff !
     
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    First time I had sourdough was on holiday some years ago. The ball was scooped out and filled with clam chowder which was a delicious combination.
    I often get a sourdough loaf from Lidl which is ok if eaten the same day. But I bet your fresh baked is amazing.
     
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    Well first effort at using waste starter was a roaring success

    Best pancakes ever apparently !

    Lovely taste of sourdough soft fluffy pancakes


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    Will get the waffle machine out next time !
     
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    Got a recipe to share for those?
     
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