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Soundcard - MAudio Revolutin vs HDA X-Mystique

Discussion in 'Computer Components' started by BenW, Aug 17, 2005.

  1. BenW

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    Hi, looking for a new soundcard and can't decide!

    I've currently got some Logitech Z2200 speakers on a soundblaster live! 5.1 which you'll know isn't all that great.

    I'm looking at these 2 cards

    M-Audio Revolution 7.1
    http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_...ion71-main.html

    HDA Digital X-Mystique 7.1 GOLD
    http://www.ihda.co.kr./skin/ihda/go...de=010000027136

    The M-audio is about twice the price but i hear good things about both. My speakers are only 2.1 and are connected by a single 3.5mm jack.

    I want quality music and i do play games so nothing too intensive.

    So basically which is better?
    Many Thanks
    Ben
     
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    Both cards are the same if using the analogue outputs, i.e 192hz/24 bit, but the advantage of using the HDA Digital, is than it endcodes all audio on your PC to a dolby digital bitstream, so you can send it to your decoder/amp for crystal clear audio, so all them games that support 5.1 audio, you can listen to it through your amp with a single digital cable instead of 3 analogue ones.

    But your sound system I take it does not support a digital input, so any card would do for you, but I take it the HDA Digital is cheaper so pick that up, it got a lot of good reviews, but I think the Sound Blaster Audigy 2 is the best card for a 2.1 Setup really, has more features..., so try looking for a cheap one of those, but if you plan to get a digital sound system sometime soon, then get the HDA Digital..
     
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    Thanks for the reply

    The only reason i want to upgrade my current card is for sound quality. My speakers are quite good as far as pc speakers go. I've heard that the m-audio has better sound quality than the audigy and i've also heard great things about the mystique but not in comparison to the m-audio

    The speakers will be staying for at least a while so i'm looking at pure 2.1 analogue
     
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    You might want to look at some of the RME cards too.
    Pay attention to whether or not the card can bypass the kmixer. The audigy as far as I'm aware resamples everything to 48kHz...this is generally considered less than ideal from an audiophile point of view.

    I had an maudio 2496 for a couple of years but never really used it for anything other than spdif output which minimises some of its advantages. Sold it and now use the onboard sound chip on my mobo but I never use the machine for music.
     
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    What exactly does the kmixer do?

    I've made my mind up that i'm not going with the creative offerings, looking for audio quality and they don't seem to offer it.
     
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    Not too up on the technicalities of it but its some sort of borked windows protocol that forces all audio to be upsampled to 48kHz rather than left alone ( cd is 41.1kHz I think). This is generally regarded as being detrimental. Some apps have the ability to by pypass the windows bit ( ASIO plug in for winamp).

    However some cards do the upsampling internally regardless...I think this is the case with the audigies but its been a while since I was looking into it.

    I may be a bit off on the technicalities of this issue but it should be a major factor in deciding what card you want from an audiophile point of view. The DD encoding capabilities of some of the cards is only really useful for games.
     
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    I've heard that audigys upsample aswell. I'll be leaving them alone.

    So, i think i'll be getting the mystique for £35 + postage.....good idea?
     
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    The HDA is a well covered card...as to it being audiophile that's something you'll have to make your mind up on. There should be plenty of commentary on here about the HDA , RME and maudio camps from some people infinitely more audiophile than myself.
     
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    My speakers aren't going to make the most of a card like these but they're better than what my current card can offer.

    So i'm just looking for a decent upgrade and the mystique is cheap.

    I'll be ordering one, thanks for your help Mr.D
     
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    It's cheap, may I aks where you are getting one from?
     
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    It is that at Overclockers now.
    They have such a poor reputation though!

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    I thought they were ok, ordered a dvd writer from them ,came in 4-5 days, they do stock a lot of stuff that you cannot otherwise get, like coolers...
     
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    I get nearly everything I buy for home from overclockers, I've never understood where their bad reputation comes from to be honest.. I've never had a problem yet in 3 years, and I buy everything from big TFTs to CPUs..?

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    I eat some humble pie then and apologise.I may get the soundcard from them then :thumbsup:
     
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    I wouldn't start apologising until you have the soundcard in your hands mate.. :)

    From what i've seen though, it's only their returns dept that takes a battering... but then I've never had anything 'wrong' delivered, and certainly nothing ever damaged... so never needed to return anything...:rolleyes:
     
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    Hey Dude, is it next day delivery with them?
     
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    you can pay a bit extra for next day, or Saturday delivery, which are both very reliable...( for me at least) but I'm pretty sure their cheapest delivery option is 3 working days.

    EDIT: I could be wrong actually, or they've changed their delivery options... looks like it's all next-day now...:)
    I always use the Amtrack nextday service, never had a problem so far..
     
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    I just ordered a VGA cooler form them £23, plus another £8 for next day delivery, would of used first class recorded but they take to long to process the order and get it packed, usually takes the around 2 days for that alone, then another day to ship it.., great thing about ebay, you usually get your item within two days from most respectable sellers, unlike these larger online retailers...
     
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    When i last used them (Case/mobo/CPU cooler) with amtrak nextday it took near 10 phone calls and 2 weeks to arrive. Amtrak is franchised so its different all over the country, obviously my local depot is poor.

    The Mystique is now £45 ish so £50 inc delivery.

    I've now decided against the mystique, seems its recommended if you're outputting to an amp with DD. I won't be.

    I've seen creatives next gen cards (X-Fi range) which claim to have amazing game performance and decent sound quality. Release date of mid september. I'll be waiting until then, read some reviews then decide.
     

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