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Sony Xperia XZ Premium Smartphone Review & Comments

Discussion in 'Mobile Phones Forum' started by David Phelan, Jun 15, 2017.


    1. David Phelan

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      As I understand it this phone isn't VR compatible, which based on my experience with my S8+ makes this an automatic no thanks, which is a pity given the 4k screen

      It also looks a bit dated in terms of design
       
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      This phone is significantly bigger and heavier than the s8 yet the display is smaller plus its LCD and not OLED. For those reasons I wouldn't buy this phone.
       
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      Difficult to go back to LCD from OLED indeed, but at least this phone doesn't need a fire safety blanket in the box.
       
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      The reviewer says it has no optical image stabilisation, yet the Sony site states it has Steadyshot 5 axis stabilisation, and has a video showing it in use...
       
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      it is because it is hybrid IN SENSOR stabilisation and phone gyro, a big first from Sony, first debut in 2016 IMX318 with 3 axis image stabilisation. This new IMX400 is also world’s first memory stacked CIS and is 5 Axis but with additional support from the phone gyros.

      This review also makes NO mention of the fact that the memory stacked sensor takes images even before you press the shutter button. the fact that it has manual focus, etc etc
      Xperia XZ Premium – the all-new Motion...


      look here for a better review on the camera that "lacks features" according to avforums lol. Apparently, avforums also think it has an absence of a depth-of-field effect... It has manual focus, so of course it does!!
       
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    8. samdavies

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      I've had this phone a few weeks now and I absolutely love it! I've had 2 generations of samsung edge displays and I needed a design change. I find sony to be much more sophisticated in terms of design and software than samsung and lg now after using all 3.

      Granted if this phone wasnt offered in a silver or metal version i may not have been drawn to buying it so much. I've just wanted another silver phone ever since I changed from the htc m8 3(?) years ago. Daft reason to want a phone, but hey call me vain idm. I actually really like the design. its simple and elegant and much more ergonomic than you'd think. Yes it definitely could do with a few mm's off the top and top bottom as those the bezels are to much, but that's life. It is bloody slippery too tbf, the ever so slightly protruding top and bottom pieces do help to stop it falling out of your hand at the last minute though thankfully. It does slide off everything mind you and fingerprints gallor! - but I knew about that prior and still accept it as a reasonable trade off for the beautil chrome effect.

      It's super snappy, completely unbloated UI experience and I like all sonys smart little add ins for the most part that samsung just overdid imo and seemed still a bit childish. I had to port a beta version of HTC's sense onto my s6 and s7 edge's to be able to stand them. I dont feel i'll need to on the sony.

      The screen is absolutely amazing. Breathtaking. Yes its small, but its so good. HDR is nicely effective to and im glad for the gimic. Speaking of gimics the ultra slow mo camera is so impressive. I'll be fiddling with it forever. Granted the auto phase focus is not as impressive as the s7 edge as of yet and neither is the low light shooting actually. I really wish they has combined the lens with atleast an f1.8 aperture. But nevermind, im not really an indoor shooter anyway. The selfie cam is much better than previous phones I've had as well.

      Battery life is fantastic - which was a worry. Definitely matches the s7 edge. Very happy there so far. My only other major gripe is the stereo speakers are great for when you're watching something on the phone, but the moment you put it on its back and play music it just gets lost in an mid to large room. The single speaker on the s7 edge was far louder. I am actually quite irritated by this, but i've got headphones and google cast speakers all over the house so I'll live for my year cycle.

      This phone is not perfect, and I'll probably be back to sammy with the s9 edge iteration next year if there's enough of an improvement offered.. But the XZ Premium has high usability, great battery life and screen, with a fun camera feature and it looks absolutely gorgeous to me. Make it half a cm shorter, double the loudness on the speakers and add better low light cam capabilities and i'd very nearly give it a 10!
       
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      One important point I didn't see in the review is Android updates. From what I gather from colleagues Sony is really slow in this regard. Which means that its vulnerable to attacks and stealing of private information.

      In my opinion it could be beneficial and informative to have a separate piece on data/device security. With the internet of things rising its very much a matter of time until a burglar opens a front door because one of your internet connected devices isn't securely connecting to tge internet. Just a view points as a suggestion: iphones vs android how many apps contain viruses;open wifi networks; bank transitions via a phone app; standard passwords, why you should change them
       
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      Honestly disagree. Sony, in the uk anyway, are much faster than Samsung with Android updates. My xz premium has already received the June security patch. My ex had the z5 and she always received android updates before my s6 and s7 - both major and minor.

      Agree security is a worthwhile subject on the whole, but comparing apple and Android security updates really isn't a fruitful talking point imo. Its not like iOS is an open platform leaving room for choice. You either like the iPhone or you don't. I wouldn't have thought more frequent security updates will make a diehard Android fan turn over.
       
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      Wrong! Sony aims to be first manufacturer to release Android 7.1.1 (outside Google) | Xperia Blog

      Have a Xperia XZs and just love it. Prefer Sony's design over Samsung any day. :smashin:
       
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      In his review David said that there wasn't any optical stabilisation, which is correct, but there is electronic stabilisation so that's a fair point and he has updated the camera section of the review to reflect this. He has also added some comments about Predictive Capture to go along with his original observations on Predictive Focus.
       
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      Thanks for getting the review updated Steve Withers. However, do you not agree that these three photos I have attached using my Xperia XZ Premium exhibit good depth of field effect, these were taken indoors in somewhat bad lighting, three objects and in each photo a different object is in focus. Notice how you can see a nice depth of field effect. This is using superior auto mode with just finger tap object focus. Didn't even need to use manual focus.
      DSC_0892.JPG DSC_0891.JPG DSC_0893.JPG

      Sony always gets a tough write up when it comes to phones. This is arguably their best phone to date, has all the features found in all top contenders and features a few world firsts too and it still seems like you're damned if you do and your damned if you don't. I'm regards to design, people love to point out phones like the Samsung Galaxy S8, however with Sony's design choice they've managed to retain front facing stereo speakers unlike the mentioned.

      No mention of the fact that it was the first phone to debut Snapdragon 835 which in return made it the first phone to reach gigabit LTE speeds.
      Powered by Snapdragon 835, Sony's Xperia XZ Premium reaches Gigabit speeds | Qualcomm

      Forgive me for saying, but the review feels lazy and lacking. I love your site in general so I am still a fan, just didn't think this meets your normal standards in reviews.
       
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    14. Steve Withers

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      I think David's review is very positive with regards to the Xperia XZ Premium but as with any review we only get a limited amount of time with the product. As someone who clearly has a great deal of experience with Sony's phones why don't you add a User Review, I'm sure people will be interested in reading about your thoughts on the Xperia XZ Premium.
       
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      This phone ticks so many boxes for me, but alas I cant get on with the design of the phone. It just looks ugly to me - those top and bottom bezels are horrible.

      Disappointed that the review doesn't touch on sonic capabilities as there appears to be stereo speakers on the phone - yet one of the comments above sights a need for double the volume. Id be interested to see how those speakers stack up against the aging HTC m8 or the Axon 7 ones. Also does this phone have any form of inbuilt DAC for headphones? or a 3.5mm jack?

      What are the storage options out of the box? Are there any model variations to choose from?
       
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      I don't think anyone has pointed out here, and this is a very important point, while the screen maybe 4k, everything except photos and videos is rendered in 1080p and then scaled, therefore for the vast majority of the time this is infact a 1080p display. When I compare the phone side by side to an old LG G3 which has a 5.5in 1440p display and renders everything at this resolution, while it made the phone laggier, the difference in sharpness and detail is huge when browsing in chrome, it made the Sony screen look blurred when up close although it's probably no more blurred than a native 1080p display. With the Samsung S8, you have the choice to select resolution, but unfortunately Sony still doesn't allow rendering at 4k.

      Next I compared some Youtube 4k videos, but on the Sony it was in vp9 at 4k whereas my phone did 1440p avc, when I looked at the Sony alone at first I was wowed, but when I compared it to my phone side by side, while it's possible that there maybe an increase in detail and sharpness, it's minor, especially at that screen size which is why I think it's understandable that no other manufacturer has bothered to put a 4k display in a phone.

      Contrast and colour accuracy isn't a match for the Oled's although the Pentile subpixel layout results in a drop in sharpness, the other problems with the XZ premium is it's size and bulk. At 195g it's very heavy and it's got huge bezels in all directions.
       
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      All these people sayings its heavy. Jeez, are you ants? Since when is 195g heavy? Pathetic points to bring up.

      What a load of drivel that the display looks blurry. It certainly doesn't.

      HDR footage looks stunning on both YouTube and Amazon video. Even non HDR video looks brilliant on this device and with the now vast amount of 4k video appearing on YouTube and other sources, this phone is leaving everyone in the dust. Games will no doubt start rolling out in 4K and HDR on mobile devices too.

      Are you really going to complain that the main ui isn't in 4k? Because you want to see your Facebook icon in a higher resolution? Please gimme a break man. It would cause unnecessary drainage of the battery, it's better to have it when required than all the time.

      The aesthetics are subjective. I think it's a gorgeous phone. So am I wrong? :eek:
       
    18. leonccyiu

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      195g is heavy relative to the oneplus 5 at 153g, s7 edge at 157g, s8 at 155g, my g3 is 149g, the htc u11 is heavier at 169g, pixel xl is 168g, even the iphone 7 plus at 188g with it's solid thick build is not at heavy. 195g is very heavy if you use your phone in bed, even out of bed 185g is heavy.

      The display looks blurry side by side with a phone with a 1440p display where everything is rendered in 1440p, this includes the HTC U11 and S7 Edge. From 2 feet away you won't notice a difference, but up close you'll notice text is softer and fuzzier on the xz premium.

      HDR footage does not look stunning on this phone, even according to GSM arena, unless they had this phone side by side without hdr they would be hard pushed to tell the difference.
      Sony Xperia XZ Premium review: The showstopper
      Oled is the only display technology that can properly do HDR, even FALD LCD's struggle with blooming although they get much brighter, with edge lit with edge dimming LCD's, contrast suffers in bright areas, this phone doesn't have any form of local dimming and the max brightness is 600 nits. I can live without HDR on the HTC U11 except that phone doesn't have a headphone jack.

      This phone is not leaving everyone in the dust, I challenge you to a side by side with the U11 playing a 4k youtube video on the xz premium and the same video in 1440p on the u11 on the youtube app, they'll both be using the same vp9 codec. I bet if it were a blind test you'd struggle to tell them apart.

      Yes I am going to complain that you do not have the option to render everything past 1080p, not necessarily 4k, although rendering at 1440p is not a multiple, although samsung doesn't think it's an issue. Yes I do want to see Facebook messenger chat heads in higher resolution, that's one of the first things I found stunning when I got my G3, I also want to be able to view entire webpages with small text that 1080p would struggle with. Icons and text look crisper at 1440p.

      When I do have regular access to a charger or am not out for too long, I'd like to have the option for everything to be rendered in 4k even if it slows things down slightly, if not to render at 1440p or 1620p and scale to 4k. The only time you get to see the display in 4k is in the gallery most likely viewing your own photos and 4k video, everything else is worse than competing flagship phones except the iphone.

      This phone is really bulky and heavy, and looks dated, I wanted to like this phone as it has a headphone jack and I don't like how Samsung don't have flat versions any more, I also prefer the 16:9 aspect ration. To me, this phone represents why Sony's consumer electronics division is struggling.
       
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      The weight of a phone is a big thing for me tbh. I do use my phone in bed and find that my current phone (Note 4) is far too heavy for my liking. My next phone will be light.

      I too really wanted to like this, but I cant get on with look of it (subjective I know), the lack of oomph in the speakers is also a disappointment.

      I was holding out hope for this and the HTC U11 - both have gone down a road which means my search for my next handset is still on going.
       
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      I like the simple no nonsense design of the Sonys as well and if this had a bigger screen and OIS, I'd probably go for it to replace my Note 4. I still use a Z Ultra with its 6.44in screen for my drone and makes the Note 4 screen feel small so would like to get a bigger screen this time rather than a smaller one.
       
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      What's better?

      This phone or the Samsung S8 plus?
       
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      Horribly bland design, slippery as an eel on ice and no FM Radio. It's a firm no from me.
       

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