Sony UBP-X1000ES Ultra HD Blu-ray Player Review & Comments

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    1. Steve Withers

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      With Dolby Vision, this could have been the best universal player, and I'm sure they could have achieved it u set £500. Who would want anything else if all that were true?

      As it is, this will be a flop
       
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      The lack of 7-channel analogue outputs is a major oversight IMO.

      Plenty of people out there want a premium product. Just ask Oppo (who I wager will love this machine) :)
       
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      Why would such a flawed product get such a high score?
       
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      Why would anyone pay £700 for this when you could get the oppo o_O sony :facepalm:
       
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      What's flawed about it, apart from the price of course. Aside from that it's an excellent player. Don't forget it's not aimed at normal consumers, it's intended for the custom install market, who I'm sure will love it.
       
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      Fair enough, maybe that RS-232 port is worth the high price in certain markets. To me, it looks ridiculously overpriced compared to the competition and no chance of Dolby Vision in the future mean it's an also ran.
       
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      Well the lack of Dolby Vision support just puts it in line with every other player apart from the two Oppos and the LG. I totally agree though, for the average consumer you'd have to be nuts to buy the X1000ES over the UDP-203.
       
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      Assuming they don't need 7-channel analogue outputs...
       
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      Something wrong at the Sony camp. Missing Dolby Vision first time round ok, with the second coming no excuse. How can they still promote DV with their OLED/LCD and yet you still have to invest with a another manufacturer to playback DV discs.
      Reminds me of a quote for George Bush " fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.” :laugh:
       
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      In fairness to Sony, the X1000ES is just a custom install version of the X800, so it's got the same chipset and that means no Dolby Vision support. I would expect Sony to announce a genuinely new player at CES that does support Dolby Vision.
       
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      Maybe if it played cd's as good as a decent cd player via the analogue out it may make sense to someone looking for a one box solution? I have doubts on that though.

      I would say the Oppo 203 is OK for cd playback but not great IMO. Played a few cd's and I didn't rate it that highly to use it again so have stuck to my dedicated cd player
       
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      Without DV it is a money for nothing taking into consideration other premium product from Oppo.

      Moreover i still dont understand the Sony strategy being so slow in providing DV for all 2017 products line from sounbars to this UHD players and keeping in mind their really visually perfect under Sony Pictures production movies from 2k17 that having DV support on streaming platforms
       
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      PS3....the last time Sony were the cutting edge
       
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      Custom installers must deal with a lot of mugs with more money than sense.
       
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      I hope you are correct Steve, their current DV strategy on products cannot help sales.
       
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      With all this fuss about DV, it leads me to ask...how ubiquitous will DV become...will it be standard on pretty much all hardware from next year?
       
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      Support both?
       
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      Who knows what's going to happen, all I can say is that there are already Dolby Vision players and discs but HDR10+ isn't currently even part of the Ultra HD Blu-ray specs.
       
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      @Steve Withers

      Excellent reviews as always. However, there is a suggestion the alternative use of X1000 and X1000ES can be confusing sometimes. Specially at the end of the second paragraph, last two sentences. I thought for a moment that you were referring to two different players.
       
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      I thought that Sony has lost their marbles until I read this comment. I could not understand why they did not include DV in such expensive machine. I agree that no ordinary consumer would buy this when the Oppo is considerably cheaper.
       
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      I actually alternate between UBP-X1000ES, UBP-X1000, X1000ES and X1000, sorry if it causes confusion but it's deliberate so that search engines pick up every possible permutation.
       
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      In the US it seems a good buy at £450. A 'do it all' player (bar Dolby Vision) though I've not read any Hifi two channel reviews yet for the DAC quality. If the analogue output is great then it may be a rival for Oppo.

      Nothing to justify £725 in the UK.
       
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      I see, a technological reason behind. ;)
       
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      Most custom installers choose products for the best reliability and control options over the one that gives the best performance and value for money. There are very few cinema or hifis put in by custom installers that well informed enthusiasts would be happy with.

      I know many CI companies are ditching Oppos because the new models have proved very buggy. If one player is marginally better or cheaper than another its academic if a system you’ve installed in another country keeps falling over.
       
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      Is there a hardware reason the Sony cannot do Dolby Vision? If it could, it would be the perfect player for me.
       
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      It seems that there is. It is base on the X800 and the 800 had a hardware limitation. I assume that the X1000 has the same hardware problem.
       
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      "You're spot on here "NO 7.1 multi channel audio out to speak of ..
      And again no multiregion or multi code for blu-rays (1080p) etc ..
      I don't expect it for 4k discs ..but for the latter .."YES I do !!

      So what gives ..I'll stick to my Sony bdp S760 blu-ray player with its 7.1 multi channel audio out "oh by the way you still get the 7,1 via the head phones socket too!

      And that leaves you with the cash to spend on video disc media blu-rays and dvd's etc (on sale) of course ..

      "Any of this making any sense for any one?
       

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