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Sony TRV33 & the TRV80.......

Discussion in 'Camcorders, Action Cams & Video Editing Forum' started by andypandy, Aug 10, 2003.

  1. andypandy

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    I was told by a salesperson in a Sony Authorsed Delaer that the TRV33 and the TRV80 produce exactly the same quality films. They obviously have other differences like 1/2M.Pixels on the single digital picture side, bigger LCD, etc , but when shooting video footage onto the Micro DV the Picture Quality is exactly the same on the 2.

    Is this realy true ?

    Another few software question , to do with transferring onto DVD. I am using Uleads DVD Movie Factory 2. Am I right in choosing to capture using CBR - 6000kbps rather than VBR - 6000kbps ? I also presume recording at 8000kbps is an overkill ?
    How can I tell how many frames are dropped in the capture with this piece of software ?
     
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    Don't know about the quality

    As to MPEGing I use TMPGENC as I get better results than DVD Movie Factory
     
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    I read the review.

    MartinImber, you use tmpgenc. What software do use to capture the image ?
     
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    And?????:rolleyes:
     
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    Ulead DVD Workshop
     
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    I read the review and although it's good news all round it doesn't state if the movie picture quality is better than the trv30. The same applies about reviews of the trv30 and how great that is. The sales guy was saying that they both produce movies of 540 lines and are exacly the PQ. It's the extra features thast set the trv80 well ahead of the 33.

    Maybe I should email Sony UK and simply ask.

    IMartinImber, 've used dvd movie factory 2 to capture (I've settled on 8000 kbps CBR DVD pal) then produce the DVD VOB's. The quality seems very good to me. Playing back on a 36" TV and PQ is very sharp. I have also connected the camcorder to the TV and switched between sources and they are very very close.
     
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    >>>>I read the review and although it's good news all round it doesn't state if the movie picture quality is better than the trv30.<<<


    The fact it has a larger CCD means the 'movie picture quality' will be better than the TVR33

    To quote this from the review:

    "In fact, the DCR-TRV80 (75) could well be the best single-CCD camcorder currently available."


    It's not just about 'lines', the CCD is about the colour clarity and rendition which contributes largly to the picture quality. Sales persons in shops, whilst well meaning, often don't know their arse from their elbow. And even if they do, they will assume you don't and most often tell you what they think you will understand.
     
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    I capture at DV and edit at DV, analogue capture is 4xDV size per minute but edits down to DV size.

    I find that TMPGENC does better than Uleads encoder - but I then reimport the MPEGs back in then burn to DVD.

    Biggest problem is lack of AC3 support.
     

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