Well, after much research, i've narrowed the choice down to these two models. However, although ive read good reviews on the Sony, i havent been able to find that many on the Panasonic and the one i did find wasnt very clear! So i was hoping i could ask anyones opinion on whether they think the Panasonic model is worth the extra £150 on the Sony. (This is assuming i get the sony for £600 and the Panasonic for £750, which i can do.) I know the Panasonic is 3ccd etc but ive heard that its not so great for a 3ccd camcorder, but is it £150 better in quality than the Sony? Oh, and im not worried about its still-photo ability as i have a dedicated camera for that, so dont worry about telling me the differences on that factor, i dont really care! thanks very much oh, p.s. i'm not just someone coming on here cos im too lazy to do anything else, i have read up as much as i can find over the last couple of months and so do have a reasonable knowledge of things - if any of you could post their views, it would be much appreciated!