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Sony SXRD RPTV - new player in town

Discussion in 'Televisions' started by Boris Blank, Oct 13, 2005.

  1. Boris Blank

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    The new 1080p SXRD sets are getting rave reviews in the US, looks like they may very well better the latest US DLP sets (that we haven't seen yet). Price is around $3500 but gawd knows what they will be if/when they make it to the UK.

    The review on the WSR website (subscribers only) is mouth-wateringly good!

    Paul
     
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    That's what I'm waiting for.

    I'm curious, though. Everyone got very excited with the announcement of the Sony VPL? VW100, a three chip 1080p SXRD projector for "just" £10k. But, even more so than with the new wobulated 1080p DLPs, the big SXRD RPTVs appear to have comparable technology and potential for a fraction of the price.

    Now where is the value!

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    Here's a link to a summary of the lab test results from Sound and Vision. On past performance, a more complete review may available later on.

    http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=898

    The results appear to be as good as any. Full resolution of 1080 test patterns. One of the best performances ever. That sort of thing. There is no mention of contrast in this particular test, but I've heard very good reports about the SXRDs. 13,000:1 on/off contrast in a dark room with active iris enabled, or about 290:1 ANSI contrast, anyone?

    However, I don't think they accept 1080p/50 or 60 over HDMI. Yet.

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    I think we will wait a long time for 1080 sets in this country. The manufacturers will first of all want to sell us the present 720 technology. Look how long HD has been established as a broadcast format in the USA and they are only now getting 1080 sets.

    It will be a year or so before we have a good selection of HD broacasts and gawd knows how long before a HD DVD format will arrive. Then we have to wait for Joe Public to latch on and hopefully begin buying the sets. The manufacturers will make sure they saturate the market with generation one sets before we get 1080. I think we're looking at a few years easily - and that is only if HD takes off as all hope it will.

    By the time we get 1080 something new will be on the horizon. So you decide to wait for that and you end up waiting a few more years. Meantime the rest of us have been enjoying our sets for all those years.

    Look at what you like now and buy it. Whatever you buy and no matter how long you wait, something better will eventually come along.
     
  5. Boris Blank

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    The one thing that might mean that the SXRD sets arrive sooner rather than later is that Sony are dropping out of both Plasma and CRT TV production. I can't see them leaving LCD to fight it out alone in the market place, they need a flagship set and I suspect that the SXRD is it.

    The quoted full on/full off contrast of 13300:1 is is also being reported in the latest issue of Home Theatre Magazine. They also measured the black level down to 0.006 foot lamberts (best Plasma they measured was 0.23ft-l, best DLP is 0.08ft-l). With a dynamic iris, these levels may not be acheivable in normal usage but whatever the reality is, its still one heck of a lot better than anything we've seen before!
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    They are only now getting 1080 SXRD sets. They have had very good 1080 CRT direct view and RPTV sets for some years now.

    The reason some of us hope to get the 1080 SXRD sets is not because the Americans are, but because we will be getting HD Sky and discs.

    Did the 720 sets come here because we had 720 material?

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  7. Boris Blank

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    One quote form the (very respected) guys at WSR,
    "The Sony.. has the most satisfying image I have seen since watching an 8- or 9-inch crt front projector, but it is brighter and arguably has better blacks and contrasts".

    WOW!! That'll do for me!

    Anybody seen one in the flesh at CEDIA?
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    there is 2 SXRD sets available early next year 55"rear projection and a 46" lcd they are both gonna be full hidef res sets :thumbsup: and its true they will blow everything away cant wait :thumbsup:
     
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    ive seen 1 in a box but not out of the box running,my boss saw the 70" in rome a few months ago he said it was awsome :smashin:
     
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    No - they arrived in preparation for HD, just as they did in the USA. And they pretty much saturated the market with 720 sets before 1080 sets were made available.

    No reason to assume the manufacturers will do any different here. Have you ever known any electronics company give us next generation technology before they have sold us the first generation?
     
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    Yes, there are presently two sets just becoming available: KDS-R50XBR1 (50") and KDS-R60XBR1 (60"). They are both rear projection and use the same projection engine, but it would be a bit unfair to describe them as LCD. Never heard of the 46" and 55" sizes, though. What do you know?

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    I think that would be the Qualia 006.
    $$$$$$$!
    Looks a lot nicer than the 50 & 60, though.

    Nick

    edit: what happeend there, then?
     
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    sorry my mistake,the sets i mentioned ie the the 46" lcd is the qualia 05,which is a high spec lcd tv with full hidef,the 55" is the model that is planned for the uk.The models you mention will only be available in the usa we wont be seeing them that big over here shame :( .i was at sony's headquarters(weybridge) a few months and they had 1 there in a box also i had a chat with some1 there about it that how i know :thumbsup:
     
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    Thats superb information kourosh, many thanks.
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    A 55" 1080p SXRD DLP RPTV over here next year?

    That's cheered me up! Nick :)
     
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    Sony's SXRD sets are based on LCD technology not Texas Instruments DLP technology.

    Cheers
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    Whoops! :blush:
     
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    Qualia 005 will not be coming to the UK.
     
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    have a look at home cinema choice oct issue page 8 :smashin: ;)
     
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    Also taken from a Sony press release.

    SXRD uses liquid crystal technology.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Hmmm - a 1080 progressive 50-inch TV for under $4000 :thumbsup: or around £2500 early next year with greater contrast ratio :hiya: and better colours than DLP but no rainbows, and no LCD chicken wire. :) ...there must surely be a catch?

    How about a US website that claims it doesn't have 1080p input and that 1080p is academic anyway as HDMI sockets can't cope with that much bandwidth? :mad: I'm not a TV engineer so have no idea whether that's true or not.

    Thoughts? :confused:

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  26. Boris Blank

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    Given that the PS3 will apprantly be able to output 1080p, it is indeed strange that the SXRD cannot take a 1080p input given that the two devices come from the same manufacturer. Perhaps a future firmware upgrade to the SXRD will correct this but in the short-term at least, 1080i should do very nicely.

    £2500? Quite possibly. It seems that the price of recent US 3LCD models closely match a straight $ to £ conversion plus vat of course, so a US price of $3999 for the 50" SXRD roughly equates to £2500 give or take. Given the quality of the SXRD that seems a very fair price indeed - fingers crossed the price holds true.
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    Well folks, since in a few months' time you're all going to be buying one of these beauties Sony (KDS-R50XBR1) why don't you check out the instruction booklet on the Sony website in advance so you know how you can get turned on?

    http://www.sonystyle.com/intershoproot/eCS/Store/en/documents/specifications/KDS-R50XBR1_manual.pdf

    Oh sad geek me! There I was, salivating my way through until I got to page 115, the technical specification. Sure enough, 1080i input but no 1980p. Oh, Sony, why, oh why? Just when I was about to put my life savings into one of these, I find I still don't have a 1080p... :-(
     
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    I'm sadder - I already read it. Note that the KDS-R50XBR1 doesn't take 50Hz inputs. I think we would get a different model number in Europe.

    By the way, HDMI (like DVI) very intentinally DOES support 1080p/60. It's just that only HP use the few selected 1080p HDCP decoder chips that are actually fast enough, specifications notwithstanding.

    Anyway, can't wait.

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    I was over in the states last month and I posted on here when I got back, the sets are outstanding, blew me away. I have been thinking of buying a DLP for a while, I liked the Samsung but I have been put off by the number of people who have posted on here who have had to send sets back, I am also concerned about rainbows on DLP sets.

    I am putting off purchasing a HD set for 6 months to wait for them to come out over here.
     
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    I hope we can next year get one of these in a newer model that have 1080P input. Then I'm in heaven :D
     

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