SONY SVR-HDT500/1000 Freeview+HD PVR Master Thread

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  1. sila1999

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    Just thought i would let you know that Sony are about to release a HD capable PVR for the UK market. These models are
    SVR-HDT500 500Gb HDD
    SVR-HDT1000 1TB HDD

    User manual located here

    System Transmission standards:
    DVB-T/DVB-T2
    Channel coverage:
    UHF: E21 to E69
    The above channel coverage merely ensures the channel reception within these ranges. It does not guarantee the ability to receive signals in all circumstances. The channels that can be received differ depending on the region.

    Recording format:
    DVB-T/DVB-T2: DR (Direct Recording)

    Inputs and outputs

    AUDIO OUT:
    Phono jack/2 Vrms/10 kilohms
    VIDEO OUT: Phono jack/1.0 Vp-p
    DIGITAL OUT (COAXIAL):
    Phono jack/0.5 Vp-p/75 ohms

    LAN(100): 100 BASE-TX Terminal
    HDMI OUT: HDMI™ Connector

    USB:
    USB jack (For connecting digital still camera, USB memory and external hard disk drive)

    General

    Power requirements:
    AC adaptor: DC 12 V 3.3 A
    SVR-HDT500: DC 12 V 2.2 A
    SVR-HDT1000: DC 12 V 2.3 A
    Power consumption:
    SVR-HDT500: 30 W
    SVR-HDT1000: 31 W

    Dimensions (approx.):
    320 × 50.5 × 231 mm (width/height/
    depth) incl. projecting parts
     
  2. petrev

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    A few bits collected from other threads
     
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    So no analogue RGB output for quality archiving elsewhere.

    Unless a UK model will be equipped with scart ?


    Regarding digital copying via USB:

    Note that such saved files are tied to the machine and will not playback on any other device.
     
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    :(

    VIDEO OUT: Phono jack/1.0 Vp-p

    That's it according to the online manual

    Note : The DigitalStream DHR exports will play back on other DS DHR machines
     
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    The actual note from the manual says:

    The titles recorded on this recorder are compliant with the XFS file system and can be played on this recorder only.​
     
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    The more I think about this the less likely it seems [ That a UK version would be scarted ]
    This fits in with the general move to remove all analogue connectors from new equipment by the end of 2012.

    Another industry move that will inevitably redouble efforts to crack digital security systems as it becomes harder to move stuff about.
     
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    Hi Gav

    Quote from Argos Answers
    :confused:
     
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    Normally - I'd favour what the manual says over Argos' information any time... but until we actually see one [ in the UK] I'll reserve judgement.

    Perhaps Argos actually had 'Hands on' but there's no guarantee.

    Here's another dealers 'pre-ad'. No mention of scart there.

    This one says NO [ RGB] scarts.
     
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    Had confirmation - Manual is correct - No SCART.

    SONY Premium HD product for the Main Living Room TV
    BRAVIA Sync - HDMI CEC

    Cheers
    Pete
     
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    There are big implications here.

    This is the first machine of what is likely to be trend in hardware releases over the next year or two... and potential purchasers need to be made very aware of the limitations.

    Those limitations are: No possible analogue copying of material from this box.

    Digital copying limited to storage elsewhere ... but the files will ONLY playback on this machine.
    When the machine dies, so do those recordings.

    On other words, no permanent archiving is possible from these machines.


    On that basis I will be recommending against them.
     
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    Point taken, but for those of us who just use these type of boxes for time shifting not an issue I suspect. Certainly not an issue for me. I plan on buying one of these when they surface, simply because having a lot of Sony kit I'm hoping/expecting a high degree of integration. In all my time of having Freeview PVRs I've only ever archived 3 items, and one of those items I archived I ended-up buying on DVD.

    I agree that this playback locking thing is generally a bad thing but I think that (a) it's part of a bigger trend and (b) most people won't care.


    Clem
     
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    Indeed there will be many users for which archiving is just not an issue, but I do not know anyone who likes having their options forcibly reduced like this.

    Using your own example, as a user for whom archiving is not important, there have still been three occasions, where in future you will have no options.

    I do think this is an unhealthy shift in the balance of control of broadcasters/ content producers / hardware producers.
     
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    Thin end of a mighty big wedge - Methinks !

    We shall have to see how bad it is when the box actually arrives, as while the Humax encrypts HD to the one original box, the DS encrypts HD but it will playback on other DHR machines and SD is clear when exported to USB for both.

    Wonder when it will arrive on these shores ?

    Cheers
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    Hi

    Just spotted that like the DS it has MHEG iPlayer built in

    From SONY Support Answers
    Wonder if this means that Freeview HD MHEG iPlayer is imminent ? ? ?

    Pete
     
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    Sony have recalled the SVR-HDT500 due to an "issue with playback". Sony's last attempt at a PVR was an utter disaster - culminating in the machine recently losing the EPG completely due to software issues - and it looks as if the HD version is no different. Way to go big S. :thumbsdow

    Oh, in case you didn't know, an HDMI cable comes with it and retailers aren't too happy about this. Sony have said that including the HDMI cable in the box was an aberration (blaming Humax in a roundabout way) and is definitely not a change in policy.
     
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    I was hoping that hackers were going to rescue us from the HD archiving/playback restrictions. Naughty of me, I know - but it's naughty of "them" to be so mean :mad:

    On another aspect - will the HDT500 not need an £80 Sony-only dongle like their TVs etc do?
     
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    Hi

    Have you got the source link for this ? Seems odd that it is recalled before it has been released ?
    All the sales sites show end of Feb/early March as the ETA

    I thought the previous Sony PVR lost the EPG because the third party provider stopped broadcasting it.

    Ref: 4TV interactive programme guide. The company responsible for broadcasting the EPG (INVIEW) have stopped doing so, permanently.

    Cheers
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    Sony did manufacture the SVR-HD700/900 which had twin HD tuners that was released at the same time as the SVR-S500. Although this was primarily sold in Australia it would work in other countries.
    Since that time they have not been selling anything outside of Japan or the US, surely that can go to their OEM partner and get them to make something that would work would wide like their current Bravia TV's can.
    If anyon does have one of the SVR-HDT models are they able to create a discrete code listing of the remote control.
     
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    There's no source link that I can give you, as (for my sins) I work in a Sony Centre. We had two T500 units in on Monday, the first email about the problem came an hour later and the recall was issued the next day.

    Sony may well be giving out the late Feb/early March lead time to give them a chance to recall & repair the units that are already in the wild.

    And regardless of how the EPG went from the SVRS500, it still doesn't do what it's supposed to do. Sony recognised how much of a balls-up this was by offering owners a cut-price RDRDC100.
     
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    Hi

    OK, but I still think you are being a bit harsh about the EPG - Sony like others bought a 3rd party EPG system at a time when there was only Now+Next for most boxes so they were adding something extra. Years later the third party stops broadcasting the service and like the other boxes that used it, they all revert to Now+Next only.

    My perfectly good On-Digital boxes stopped working after DSO as the transmission system changed. Pain in the neck to have to get a new box with RF modulator for the kitchen telly that has no SCART but that is the way of the Digital World. :(

    Next SD will go T2 and all the SD boxes will be redundent ! ! !

    Wonder how long before the SVR-HDT500 is back ?

    Cheers
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    Are any DS owners thinking of purchasing the Sony when they are launched?.

    Given the similarities (similar features, same file system etc.) it would be interesting to see if material archived to an external USB drive can be played back on the other machine. I wouldn't expect it to work, but might be worth a try.
     
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    I was hoping Sony would release a FreeviewHD PVR for ages.
    Since Sony seems to be favourable to streaming content via their Bravia kit, the idea was to stream recorded content from the PVR downstairs to my Sony SMP-N100 in an upstairs bedroom.
    It appears I'm living in a dreamworld.
    I've probably got more chance of achieving this kind of setup with the DS DHR8205U I bought in January and a DS DPS-1000 unit...
    I'm usually a fan of Sony but sometimes their thinking confuses and frustrates me...
    ie BBC iplayer in SD/HD on Blu-ray but only SD on Bravia TV.
    BBC iplayer, ITV player & 4oD on PS3, but not on their mainstream Video products.
     
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    Yes, me. The CEC HDMI feature, DD5.1 audio over HDMI, and the fact that I have Sony TV, blu-ray player and Freeview PVR would seem to make sense to me. I'm sure the Sony box is an OEM from somewhere, but I don't really care providing that it works as advertised. I like the DS, but there are some features missing (DD5.1 over HDMI for instance) that mean that the box will never be 100% for me.


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    Hi Clem,

    Can you check with your DHR connected to your amp via HDMI as I have had an eMail from DS-K Engineers saying that the DS DHR8205 does do DD5.1 transcoding via HDMI - It should auto detect during boot (or something) and if the attached HDMI device is DD decoding enabled will provide DD5.1 as needed.

    I can't check this as I have no HDMI equiped Amp and my Sony isn't passing through DD5.1 via SPDIF so I can't tell etc. . .

    Cheers
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    Pete:

    Holding-off as it looks like it's real DD5.1 rather than transcoded. So close, yet so far ..... sigh.


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    Argos and Play now have these listed as coming on the 1st March.
    I'll be interested to see how they compare to the Humax - a bit more competition in the market can't hurt.
     
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    I'm deffo up for one, given the reports her I'll wait for someone else to try one out first. :D


    Clem
     
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    I have one... Gearing up for the Freeview HD switch on (April the 13th for my region)

    love the fact i can record 2 things at once too!
     
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    really. purchased from where?
     
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    Yes, tell us more!!!!


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